Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[KingsXJJ]

Actually that was straight from Igloo
He said Agoura amps did not sound like a line6 product to him
One of the worship guys that actually played it said similar
The difference to him was about the difference comparing HX to Fractal same model

Excellent thanks for confirming I hadn’t lost it. I guess that’s why I found @Frodebro and @JiveTurkey comments somewhat confusing.

Yes, we may know quite well what Helix amps sound like but I believe (but may be wrong) that the Stadium will offer something quite a bit different from just “higher resolution HX.” I’m not trying to misquote either of them intentionally if I am. That just a paraphrasing of what I recall.

 

[Sascha Franck]

we may know quite well what Helix amps sound like

If I may ask: What do they sound like?

 

[Digital Igloo]

Actually that was straight from Igloo
He said Agoura amps did not sound like a line6 product to him
One of the worship guys that actually played it said similar
The difference to him was about the difference comparing HX to Fractal same model

Oh, I wouldn't say Agoura sounds like Fractal. They have their own thing going on, and it's great. No claim of better or worse, just different.

 

[Orvillain]

That's just virtual amp collecting. If you want to do that, sure, stick with Fractal.

What do you think all of thes roboplegic roncock Kemper owners are doing?!

 

[Orvillain]

Well, I think it works quite well with the gain pretty much down. My standard patch has the gain at 4.5, though, and it even doesn't clip when I use my Ibanez 335 clone and add a little bit of push from the Vetta Comp. So maybe it's indeed your interface's input level driving it too hard with HXN's input slider at the default value.
Here's a little clip that I recorded quite straight after it was released (sorry, posted that somewhere else before), I think it's pretty clean (maybe a little tad of hair when I pick harder, but I had the gain a little higher back then):

All guitars are using the same patch.

Dude, next time you see Chasey Lain, can you get her autograph for me?

 

[Sascha Franck]

Dude, next time you see Chasey Lain, can you get her autograph for me?

Better ask these guys.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Well, I think it works quite well with the gain pretty much down. My standard patch has the gain at 4.5, though, and it even doesn't clip when I use my Ibanez 335 clone and add a little bit of push from the Vetta Comp. So maybe it's indeed your interface's input level driving it too hard with HXN's input slider at the default value.
Here's a little clip that I recorded quite straight after it was released (sorry, posted that somewhere else before), I think it's pretty clean (maybe a little tad of hair when I pick harder, but I had the gain a little higher back then):

All guitars are using the same patch.

Sounds really good, and nice playing as well.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Better ask these guys.

Them and Cake are two of the weirdest fucking bands of the 90’s.

 

[GTR37]

Oh, I wouldn't say Agoura sounds like Fractal. They have their own thing going on, and it's great. No claim of better or worse, just different.

That part was not you that was the Worship guy

 

[paisleywookiee]

Oh, I wouldn't say Agoura sounds like Fractal. They have their own thing going on, and it's great. No claim of better or worse, just different.

That’s weird, because every tube amp of the same model is exactly 110% identical, especially old Marshalls……

 

[Chocol8]

That’s weird, because every tube amp of the same model is exactly 110% identical, especially old Marshalls……

Old Fenders didn’t all get built to the same schematic or have the same speakers, and that is on top of the wide parts tolerances when they were new! So I guess they were approximately 183% the same. Give or take.

 

[Digital Igloo]

Them and Cake are two of the weirdest fucking bands of the 90’s.

You've clearly not explored Mr. Bungle's catalog.

 

[Lysander]

Them and Cake are two of the weirdest fucking bands of the 90’s.

Man, I unapologetically love Cake. That band put out banger after banger.

Their guitar player is really good too - a rare example of a rock player who doesn't hide behind overdrives, let alone distortion.

 

[Lysander]

You've clearly not explored Mr. Bungle's catalog.

[sobs in Primus]

 

[HomespunEffects]

Them and Cake are two of the weirdest fucking bands of the 90’s.

Cake was interesting

I want a girl with a short skirt and a Loooooooooooonnnnnnnnggggg jacket.

 

[KingsXJJ]

If I may ask: What do they sound like?

Helix.

 

[timbuck3]

Oh, YouTube.
Never change

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What the hec?

 

[KingsXJJ]

Cake was interesting

I want a girl with a short skirt and a Loooooooooooonnnnnnnnggggg jacket.

I met/know the guy who wrote that bass riff. He’s from LCD Soundsystem. We hung out for a while. Really cool guy.

 

[KingsXJJ]

What the hec?

Pretty nasty video for sure.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Helix.

Well, seriously, I think this is as much of a myth as the good old "Boss sounds like a cocked wah" thing (which in Boss' case seems to be largely related to their internal cabs).
Yes, there's a series of amps that may sound rather same-ish in the earlier FW revisions and IMO the factory defaults enhanced that quite a bit.
But it got a lot better from maybe 3.0 onward. And IMO the selection right now is pretty great and you can coax pretty much any sound out of them.
Are they as accurate as those from others? Maybe not. But personally, I couldn't care less.
Is there room for improvements? Very likely - but, again personally, some amps really don't leave much to be desired for me. Not all, obviously.
And well, I certainly can't spot much of a "typical Helix sound" quality.