Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

Sascha Franck said:
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From a single user POV it's certainly a collectors thing or, as you say, a "let me just fool around with this for a while".
Personally, within the HX realm, I'm now down to just two amps and hardly ever grab anything else (the Super Reverb and the Voltage).
But then there's other folks. And while they're preferences might as well come down to just 2-3 amps, it might be completely different ones.

Hence, as a modeler maker, you rather need to be a jack of all trades, so you can satisfy all potential users. As a result you just have to cover a whole lot of amps if you want people to stay on your platform.
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Damn, I didn’t do the last update and forgot that they added a super reverb! I need to do that this weekend. I think there’s gonna be a session comparing some more things in the FM9 and Helix…

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I wish all Stadium products were available on day 1, with every amp, effect and feature fully baked from day 1, and I wish it only cost $1 in the US and maybe 100 Euros in Europe just because I like when they have to pay more. I also wish I had a pet unicorn whose farts smelled like flowers and chocolates and…oh god no, I don’t wish for any of that shit!
 
Wow, 350 amp blocks... That would be stressful for me. I'm the kind of guy that doesn't like going to a burger that has more than 10 options in the menu 😆

I get the utility of that number too. There will surely be a few amps of choice for any user.
 
dk_ace said:
Damn, I didn’t do the last update and forgot that they added a super reverb!
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I think it's just excellent. But then, I'd get away with the Princess, too. And before they added that with the Cali IV clean channel.
Basically, I need a clean amp with plenty of headroom that isn't as sterile as a JC. Anything else is pretty much adressable with the right choice of cabs for my needs.
Yet, so far the Super Reverb is the one "speaking to me" the most, if you will.
Similar things go for the Voltage. I'd possibly get away with one of the other Marshall(-ish) offerings, but the Voltage happens to work all the time (I'm pretty much exclusively using both with either one of my two live IRs or the Mandarin 30 2x12).
 
Sascha Franck said:
I think it's just excellent. But then, I'd get away with the Princess, too. And before they added that with the Cali IV clean channel.
Basically, I need a clean amp with plenty of headroom that isn't as sterile as a JC. Anything else is pretty much adressable with the right choice of cabs for my needs.
Yet, so far the Super Reverb is the one "speaking to me" the most, if you will.
Similar things go for the Voltage. I'd possibly get away with one of the other Marshall(-ish) offerings, but the Voltage happens to work all the time (I'm pretty much exclusively using both with either one of my two live IRs or the Mandarin 30 2x12).
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The GSG was my choice for this kind of thing, I really love that model.

I’ve always had a soft spot for SRs though…

To me, the GSG was kinda like my idealized SR.

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Chocol8 said:
I wish all Stadium products were available on day 1, with every amp, effect and feature fully baked from day 1, and I wish it only cost $1 in the US and maybe 100 Euros in Europe just because I like when they have to pay more. I also wish I had a pet unicorn whose farts smelled like flowers and chocolates and…oh god no, I don’t wish for any of that shit!
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This isnt for everyone but you could always pick up a Boss Multi-Effects unit. Those only ship out with WYSIWYG with no updates ever, right @JiveTurkey :rimshot
 
dk_ace said:
The GSG was my choice for this kind of thing, I really love that model.
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I like that one a whole lot, too. But in comparison to the Super Reverb IMO it calls for somewhat more attention when adjusting things, so in case all I need is a really clean sound (on its own or as a pedal platform), I gravitate towards the SR.
 
dk_ace said:
The GSG was my choice for this kind of thing, I really love that model.

I’ve always had a soft spot for SRs though…

To me, the GSG was kinda like my idealized SR.

D
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The GSG is a dumble clone I think , yep I hope that one is in the launch
 
Sascha Franck said:
I think it's just excellent. But then, I'd get away with the Princess, too. And before they added that with the Cali IV clean channel.
Basically, I need a clean amp with plenty of headroom that isn't as sterile as a JC. Anything else is pretty much adressable with the right choice of cabs for my needs.
Yet, so far the Super Reverb is the one "speaking to me" the most, if you will.
Similar things go for the Voltage. I'd possibly get away with one of the other Marshall(-ish) offerings, but the Voltage happens to work all the time (I'm pretty much exclusively using both with either one of my two live IRs or the Mandarin 30 2x12).
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The Super Reverb is a really nice model but I’ve mostly been using Ventoux lately.
 
I only have HXFX as a pedal but in Native I find the Super Reverb breaks up quite early. Am I dialing it in wonky? Not played one in really life so not sure what it should sound like.
 
GTR37 said:
The GSG is a dumble clone I think , yep I hope that one is in the launch
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Yeah it’s grammaticos take on the robben ford dumble supposedly. It’s supposed to be a 1:1 clone, but who knows.

I don’t use it for anything that people would think of as a “dumble” tone. No dark, honky lead tones or anything like that. It does a really perfect BF fender tone, but it has a touch responsiveness unlike anything I’ve felt before in a modeler.

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dk_ace said:
Yeah it’s grammaticos take on the robben ford dumble supposedly. It’s supposed to be a 1:1 clone, but who knows.

I don’t use it for anything that people would think of as a “dumble” tone. No dark, honky lead tones or anything like that. It does a really perfect BF fender tone, but it has a touch responsiveness unlike anything I’ve felt before in a modeler.

D
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Dumbles can get some beautiful clean tones IMO
Check out the Steel Stringer
And some of Paul from Studio rats tones
 
bucephalus said:
I only have HXFX as a pedal but in Native I find the Super Reverb breaks up quite early. Am I dialing it in wonky?
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Well, I think it works quite well with the gain pretty much down. My standard patch has the gain at 4.5, though, and it even doesn't clip when I use my Ibanez 335 clone and add a little bit of push from the Vetta Comp. So maybe it's indeed your interface's input level driving it too hard with HXN's input slider at the default value.
Here's a little clip that I recorded quite straight after it was released (sorry, posted that somewhere else before), I think it's pretty clean (maybe a little tad of hair when I pick harder, but I had the gain a little higher back then):

All guitars are using the same patch.
 
Sascha Franck said:
Well, I think it works quite well with the gain pretty much down. My standard patch has the gain at 4.5, though, and it even doesn't clip when I use my Ibanez 335 clone and add a little bit of push from the Vetta Comp. So maybe it's indeed your interface's input level driving it too hard with HXN's input slider at the default value.
Here's a little clip that I recorded quite straight after it was released (sorry, posted that somewhere else before), I think it's pretty clean (maybe a little tad of hair when I pick harder, but I had the gain a little higher back then):

All guitars are using the same patch.
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Dude, that sounds GREAT.
 
Sascha Franck said:
Well, I think it works quite well with the gain pretty much down. My standard patch has the gain at 4.5, though, and it even doesn't clip when I use my Ibanez 335 clone and add a little bit of push from the Vetta Comp. So maybe it's indeed your interface's input level driving it too hard with HXN's input slider at the default value.
Here's a little clip that I recorded quite straight after it was released (sorry, posted that somewhere else before), I think it's pretty clean (maybe a little tad of hair when I pick harder, but I had the gain a little higher back then):

All guitars are using the same patch.
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Yeah this sounds awesome - it made me go try it out for a bit, got into a nice jam for 20 mins
Good work!
 
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