Kemper Profiler MK 2

[Dimiguitar]

What is more real, santa Claus or kemper firmware 2.0?

I don't know, but Santa comes on time.

 

[Orvillain]

I don't know, but Santa comes on time.

Mrs Claus trained him well.

 

[OneEng]

By the time they do finally get around to releasing it, even if it is the best thing since sliced bread in capture, it will still amount to an "eh" for most people. It's just too little too late.

Stadium simply sucked all the air out of the conversation.

 

[BenIfin]

By the time they do finally get around to releasing it, even if it is the best thing since sliced bread in capture, it will still amount to an "eh" for most people. It's just too little too late.

Stadium simply sucked all the air out of the conversation.

Yep ... its a bloody big "if" for sure ..... but if the new Profiling sound and feel ends up being considered "best" - whateveer that means - a Kemper Player with 2.0 loaded even without a Lvl 2 or Lvl 3 upgrade is a very compelling product that would suit a boatload of players ... just a thought.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I always forget Kemper exists until these threads pop up again.

 

[782369]

I don't know, but Santa comes on time.

Mrs Claus trained him well.

 

[Dimiguitar]

By the time they do finally get around to releasing it, even if it is the best thing since sliced bread in capture, it will still amount to an "eh" for most people. It's just too little too late.

Stadium simply sucked all the air out of the conversation.

And tonex got updated capturing, which does amazingly well. QC too. Plus we may see other major updates from these companies before profiling 2.0 releases. Even all-in-one tonex may not be that far off.

Additionally, IK and Neural DSP didn't tease much of anything. Kemper did, and made very strong claims, which even changed in time. But they did not follow up with much material. No videos showing results, just mostly silence other than the event video.

IMO if you're gonna tease stuff, at least provide some nuggets here and there. Or don't tease anything, and release features like these other companies did (or for example, with the release of your new hardware...).

The kemper approach feels deflationary to me in terms of building interest.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

Yeah, I was honestly quite tempted for a 'stage' a year or two ago before they did all the 'levels' nonsense, and now all these latest shenanigans .. it's really put me off.

 

[Dimiguitar]

It's pure stupidity. Pissing on product flag bearers is a horrible business move.

Agreed, but I also dislike this on the basis of... just thinking you ought, in a moral sense, show some gratitude.

It's no small thing to have a forum where there's long time users who help out people as much. This increases the value of your units to some level.

Appreciate these people.

 

[OneEng]

Yep ... its a bloody big "if" for sure ..... but if the new Profiling sound and feel ends up being considered "best" - whateveer that means - a Kemper Player with 2.0 loaded even without a Lvl 2 or Lvl 3 upgrade is a very compelling product that would suit a boatload of players ... just a thought.

Oh, I still think that it isn't possible to get a better live gig rig for under 1K that is better than a used Kemper for that purpose. Kemper Player with 2.0 still lacks a screen, but is fairly feature capable with others in the market within the $700 window.

I just think that if Kemper was going to "milk" their legacy, they should have made the value/$ much better (fully capable Player at $700). That is a very good argument that can be made.

And tonex got updated capturing, which does amazingly well. QC too. Plus we may see other major updates from these companies before profiling 2.0 releases. Even all-in-one tonex may not be that far off.

Yea, that is the other issue. All others improved as well. Kemper also seems hell bent on hanging their entire "value to the market" argument on profile accuracy. Stupid IMO.

Yeah, I was honestly quite tempted for a 'stage' a year or two ago before they did all the 'levels' nonsense, and now all these latest shenanigans .. it's really put me off.

A used stage is still a really good investment for live gigging IMO.

Agreed, but I also dislike this on the basis of... just thinking you ought, in a moral sense, show some gratitude.

It's no small thing to have a forum where there's long time users who help out people as much. This increases the value of your units to some level.

Appreciate these people.

It feels an awful lot like arrogance. These people you speak of end up being a soft-sales machine as well.