Kemper Profiler MK 2

[[Nathan]]

Interesting. So is the close source direction likely to be a commercial product or will it remain free and be licenced to other companies? Is there somewhere where he has stated his intentions for NAM recently online or is this something that comes up when other industry players meet him at NAM or wherever?

I have no idea what Steve does day to day but he's helped a bunch of plugin developers incorporate NAM into their plugins (Solemn Tones, ML Sound, Submission Audio). There's also a synergy between his efforts and Tone3000 and those guys have just rolled out API access for people to link into. I think it's more like the open source NAM platform is one lane where anyone can grab it and do what they want, but when someone wants to build a product or their own closed ecosystem then Steve can help them out for a close source solution.

I have no real info besides Steve leaving his former job and focusing full time on NAM now. And then you also see multiple plugin releases coming out thanking Steve for help. I guess it's all moving in a positive direction. Maybe he helped consult Line6 or Two Notes with their stuff, not sure.

 

[Antipodes]

@Nathan
The momentum with NAM is impressive. If commercial businesses feel secure in working with Steve to implement NAM in their systems it could find inclusion in many products - something like we have with IRs for cabinets which are supported on most modelling platforms.

 

[molul]

I had band audition with my Kemper but didn't get the gig cause I didn't pass the null test
...
said no one ever ...

I was expecting the sentence to end with "but then I took an arrow in the knee"

 

[hunter]

I was expecting the sentence to end with "but then I took an arrow in the knee"

or "but the other guy had a NAM player"

 

[Jarick]

I can't see Kemper using NAM because it would go against their proprietary format. I'm a bit surprised they don't have a marketplace where you can buy and sell profiles and they get a cut. Same with QC.

 

[OneEng]

I can't see Kemper using NAM because it would go against their proprietary format. I'm a bit surprised they don't have a marketplace where you can buy and sell profiles and they get a cut. Same with QC.

Indeed! This seems to be just a bit silly from a business perspective doesn't it?

 

[DrewJD82]

Mod Drew—-

In an effort to keep the peace around here and not have pages and pages of derailment for the people actually excited about this gear, I’m doing a little test by using 2 different threads for the same brand/product. The one here shall remain in place and is for Kemper enthusiasts to talk about the MK2 without me or Orvillian shitting on it or Kemper in the process.

@OneEng and @Orvillain, I’d suggest moving your debate here-

https://thegearforum.com/threads/the-kemper-rant-thread.9207/

If I continue to shit on Kemper here, the other mods have permission to thread ban me (or anyone else…..Orvie, you little slut) from this one.

Add this to the list of abandoned ideas. Just not worth the “discussion” about it (Please, don’t PM me about this, I don’t want to read another PM about any of this stuff. It ain’t gonna work, easy as that)

 

[Jarick]

Add this to the list of abandoned ideas. Just not worth the “discussion” about it (Please, don’t PM me about this, I don’t want to read another PM about any of this stuff. It ain’t gonna work, easy as that)

Appreciate you and the mod team putting in the work on this forum. It's a really draining job that you don't get paid for.

 

[Jarick]

I'm back to leaning towards returning the Kemper Player. I do like the sound of it, but I don't see it replacing my Fractal and it's too expensive to have as an extra piece of gear to mess around with occasionally.

 

[The Colonel]

There are other mods besides Drew on this forum. Myself, David Lo Pan and Lorne Malvo. So if you are somehow hurt or offended by testing the waters with some different approaches; it isn't an open season to dump in Drew's inbox. He's not the only one working here; he's just the one up front. This place requires time, money and some moderation, believe it or not. We want everyone to have a good time but there will always be bumps in the road, inevitably.

 

[Orvillain]

There are other mods besides Drew on this forum. Myself, David Lo Pan and Lorne Malvo. So if you are somehow hurt or offended by testing the waters with some different approaches; it isn't an open season to dump in Drew's inbox. He's not the only one working here; he's just the one up front. This place requires time, money and some moderation, believe it or not. We want everyone to have a good time but there will always be bumps in the road, inevitably.

Please make it clear that it wasn't me who did that. I've not PM'd anyone. But I am stepping away for a bit. This place smells a bit like ass right now.

 

[The Colonel]

Please make it clear that it wasn't me who did that. I've not PM'd anyone. But I am stepping away for a bit. This place smells a bit like ass right now.

I didn't ask him for an itemized list of who messaged him; I just know he was bombarded a bit. And gets bombarded on whatever other issues crop up around here. I am speaking in more genral terms as far as he is the one up front modding and posting at the same time interacting with you all. You're very direct so I would assume your suggestions would be posted right here in the thread and not in a PM.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Appreciate you and the mod team putting in the work on this forum. It's a really draining job that you don't get paid for.

 

[OneEng]

So, IIRC, June 21st is the summer solstice and the official beginning of "Summer". It officially ends on Sep 22, so we can expect the new profiling .... when?

 

[Jarick]

So, IIRC, June 21st is the summer solstice and the official beginning of "Summer". It officially ends on Sep 22, so we can expect the new profiling .... when?

Shrug emoji

 

[quadgear]

Sept 22?

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

So, IIRC, June 21st is the summer solstice and the official beginning of "Summer". It officially ends on Sep 22, so we can expect the new profiling .... when?

They never said what year, so I’m guessing a beta in Sommer 2026

 

[Eagle]

Does it sound good? Yes.
Does it feel good? Yes.
Does it work in real world situations? Yes.
It it cheaper than the competition? In the uk a big yes.
Does it pass a nul test? It doesn’t matter a flying fuck if it passes the other tests.

 

[Richard_G]

Good for you. Enjoy!

 

[Dimiguitar]

Does it sound good? Yes.
Does it feel good? Yes.
Does it work in real world situations? Yes.
It it cheaper than the competition? In the uk a big yes.
Does it pass a nul test? It doesn’t matter a flying fuck if it passes the other tests.

Null tests don't directly mean that much to me either. But I don't think Kemper simply passes all other tests for me. It depends.

When I profile a source tone with gain, the end result will feel like there's a tubescreamer mixed in, to some level. I don't like this.

NAM doesn't do this (at least anywhere nearly as much), my own tonex captures do not when IK multimedia capturing works right (which is an "if").

On that end, I've done blind feel tests with many, many takes. It's easy to tell what Kemper is. Some other guitarists I've made these tests with prefered the Kemper feel. I do not prefer it, and much of the time (depends somewhat on the source tone) don't like it either.

That's part of why I gravitate to other solutions. But MKII may fix these inaccuracies, which is going to be a big one for some.