Kemper Profiler MK 2

[ChordInversion]

The QC seems to me to be exactly what I expect of a company trying to do both modeling and profiling. The modeling evolved (and grows in terms of coverage) much more slowly yhan it does for companies that are focused on it. That works perfectly fine for many.

 

[RevBillyG]

No, it’s not a mental hang up. It’s the result of some amps with more interactive gain and EQ controls.

I know many people who hate that their "interactive gain & EQ controls" don't act as they expect them too (linearly).

The linear controls of a profiler are like a breath of fresh air.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I know many people who hate that their "interactive gain & EQ controls" don't act as they expect them too (linearly).

The linear controls of a profiler are like a breath of fresh air.

For people who know how to read a PDF, it's actually not too bad.

 

[Dimiguitar]

For people who know how to read a PDF, it's actually not too bad.

If they can spend the time and brain resources.

Some times there's just too much to do in this world.

 

[RevBillyG]

They do NOT handle EQ changes well for amps like Mesa with highly variable/interactive EQ and gain. They do not behave like the real amp. This matters.

The graphic post gain graphic eq?

 

[paisleywookiee]

The graphic post gain graphic eq?

Go back through the thread. This was covered days ago. I’m through discussing it.

 

[RevBillyG]

It’s hard for me to see why someone not already in the Kemper ecosystem would go for a Kemper now though. I feel like most of the performance advantages people cite are just workflow things that have more to do with being familiar with the Kemper approach than an actually better UX. Idk though.

For me it was price. Used KPP's can be had for $500.

I bought a QC about a month ago, then the KPP two weeks ago. I plan on keeping both. The models in the QC are based on captures. The same TINA profiles they use to make their plugins are used to make the QC models & I love them. I love their plugins.

I hope one day they'll give us the tools to make similar models. Headrush is doing something similar with their Superclones, although very crude in comparison. But I like that kind of forward thinking.

Kemper, as is, is also working in that direction with it's liquid profiles & the other amp controls the give you. I agree it has its limits, but if you work within those limits it can be pretty satisfying.

People are going to do what people are going to do with the tools they are given. I have no doubt in my mind some 12 year old kid is going to do something with these tools that we'll be akin to Dave Davies' broken speaker, Clapton's Bluesbreaker or Van Halen's brown sound... because he doesn't know any better.

 

[synthpenguin]

For me it was price. Used KPP's can be had for $500.

Yeah, that makes sense! If you need its particular set of features in hardware, the used prices are pretty nice right now, for sure. I think, for me, I'd still go with an NC over a KPP (especially since the NC is confirmed to be getting support for the new captures) even though it has its own downsides, but I can see why some people would go for the KPP in this price range.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Yeah, that makes sense! If you need its particular set of features in hardware, the used prices are pretty nice right now, for sure. I think, for me, I'd still go with an NC over a KPP (especially since the NC is confirmed to be getting support for the new captures) even though it has its own downsides, but I can see why some people would go for the KPP in this price range.

The NC is a killer device that got a ton of needed functionality with the last update. For the money, it’s nearly a no-brainer for amp guys to capture their stuff and have as a backup rig.

 

[synthpenguin]

The NC is a killer device that got a ton of needed functionality with the last update. For the money, it’s nearly a no-brainer for amp guys to capture their stuff and have as a backup rig.

Totally. I'm not 100% behind the whole app thing, but it at least seems to be implemented pretty well, and in general the NC team seems to really be on top of wanting to make the device the best that it can be within its hardware limitations.

I've actually thought about if I'd ever want to use captures again along with my FM9, and while the answer is probably no, I think I'd go with an NC instead of a Tonex again if I did.