In the case of Kemper, no. At this point they are limited to minor tweaks of their algorithm, which has a design that is diametrically opposed to NAM.
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Update from Kemper forum. G string guy:
"Here’s a quick update: We’re currently in the middle of a multi-phase beta test for Profiling 2.0. This process involves gathering feedback from a growing group of testers, starting with a small alpha group and gradually expanding. The feedback we collect isn’t just about identifying bugs; it’s also essential for refining the product.
With a feature as complex as Profiling 2.0, edge cases are not unusual. They tend to emerge only when a broader range of users work with the feature. Which is why new uncaught issues frequently surface right after a public release and some of you wonder "why didn't they see that before releasing it ..."
What does this mean for you? Unfortunately, it does result in more delay. But we’re making steady progress, and we’re not rushing the process. We just want to get this right."
So it sounds like it'll take a while, but at least they're working on things.
"Here’s a quick update: We’re currently in the middle of a multi-phase beta test for Profiling 2.0. This process involves gathering feedback from a growing group of testers, starting with a small alpha group and gradually expanding. The feedback we collect isn’t just about identifying bugs; it’s also essential for refining the product.
With a feature as complex as Profiling 2.0, edge cases are not unusual. They tend to emerge only when a broader range of users work with the feature. Which is why new uncaught issues frequently surface right after a public release and some of you wonder "why didn't they see that before releasing it ..."
What does this mean for you? Unfortunately, it does result in more delay. But we’re making steady progress, and we’re not rushing the process. We just want to get this right."
So it sounds like it'll take a while, but at least they're working on things.
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With some luck they will have it just in time for Namm and line6 to drop proxy that’s a horrible schedule
They absolutely have to deliver a superior product at this point with NDSP being very well received , plus I am sure in January there may even be a host of new players and products to compete with the least of which being proxy
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With new diseases showing up every couple months or quicker…Tonex V2, QC V2, Proxy V1, Fractal AM4, Fractal NAM support, NAM development in general. The competition is ahead and they are not standing still.
Delays happen and that's fine, as long as you're transparent about it, which it appears they finally were.
My bigger worry is that they really had a great timing of releasing it if they had released on their announced time. Since it got delayed, Cortex V2 has been released, Stadium has started shipping, Fractal releasing AM4 + announcing NAM support for next-gen.
I can't help but wonder if, when it finally releases, even if it's a great improvement to the V1, it will have been hopelessly outcompeted
My bigger worry is that they really had a great timing of releasing it if they had released on their announced time. Since it got delayed, Cortex V2 has been released, Stadium has started shipping, Fractal releasing AM4 + announcing NAM support for next-gen.
I can't help but wonder if, when it finally releases, even if it's a great improvement to the V1, it will have been hopelessly outcompeted
Sadly, I think that sums up Kemper's situation. It's a fine device and many people around the world use it happily every day. But, because of the design decisions they've made, it feels like the competition is passing Kemper like they are standing still. You have to wonder how many of those happy customers would choose Kemper if they went shopping for a modeler/profiler today.
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I think the only way for Kemper to survive today would be merging to Fractal so they can use their profiling technology and their effects algorithms. It would be kind of a win win (Fractal wouldn't need to develop their own profiling technology), if Fractal is interested at all.
To stay competitive, Kemper needs to invest in a brand new UI and some modeling engine at least, which is huge stuff. Profiling is not their exclusive thing anymore and they're not even the best doing it.
Spending ~1500 in Kemper nowadays makes no sense to me, honestly.
To stay competitive, Kemper needs to invest in a brand new UI and some modeling engine at least, which is huge stuff. Profiling is not their exclusive thing anymore and they're not even the best doing it.
Spending ~1500 in Kemper nowadays makes no sense to me, honestly.
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Next gen fractal units will feature a NAM player.
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They are definitely in a bad spot.
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Official statement or wishful thinking?
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Well, Cliff said next generation products will support NAM.
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Official, from the boss on multiple forums, including this one and the FAS forum.
It's not rocket science to run the training seamlessly in the cloud. IIRC, Tonocracry was the first to provide this feature.
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Not many if we are talking new.
No, but you can snatch up a used one for <$600. They are built like a tank.
Still, the best profiling in the world for 2.0 won't fix what is wrong at Kemper.
Telling the entire forum to go fuck themselves is usually a final good-bye. If you're to remind everybody that you're an engineer, that's probably unnecessary.
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Wait, what?
Here's what he posted the last time he visited TGF, back on page 183. As meltdowns go, this was pretty epic.
