John Petrucci Tonex tones

[riffy]

I have downloaded about 6 JP2c captures, only two of them will give me a type of John Petrucci sound, and I have to use the right IR for that. I also have to go into the advanced controls, and lower the treble and raise the presence to get it. When I do that, I take the treble frequency and move it from 1900 up to 2300 and it gets closer. But, I cannot say it’s perfect by any means. Now saying it’s not perfect does not mean it is not usable for what I want it for. It’s just not perfectly his sound. But if you can play like him, it gets a heck of a lot closer.

 

[JiveTurkey]

If you are not familiar with the real amp; it might be a non-issue for you. See what's out there. But as someone who has had Marks of the most modern variants; I want all the controls. Or I want a Fractal.

 

[nicolasrivera]

I have downloaded about 6 JP2c captures, only two of them will give me a type of John Petrucci sound, and I have to use the right IR for that. I also have to go into the advanced controls, and lower the treble and raise the presence to get it. When I do that, I take the treble frequency and move it from 1900 up to 2300 and it gets closer. But, I cannot say it’s perfect by any means. Now saying it’s not perfect does not mean it is not usable for what I want it for. It’s just not perfectly his sound. But if you can play like him, it gets a heck of a lot closer.

Ypu know what the funny thing is, that the official John Petrucci DT IRs (https://tonemission.com) dont sound that great!!! they do sound good in the mix context, but alone.....they are MEH.

 

[TSJMajesty]

I actually have the Amalgam Mark IIC+ and I like it for what it is but I seem to need to EQ it a lot to get to a convincing JP tone. I was just actually wondering if other Tonex users here have their favorite capture for JP tones to narrow down my options.

What guitar are you using?

 

[Mikael Dez]

What guitar are you using?

 

[Dadbodblues]

I have downloaded about 6 JP2c captures, only two of them will give me a type of John Petrucci sound, and I have to use the right IR for that. I also have to go into the advanced controls, and lower the treble and raise the presence to get it. When I do that, I take the treble frequency and move it from 1900 up to 2300 and it gets closer. But, I cannot say it’s perfect by any means. Now saying it’s not perfect does not mean it is not usable for what I want it for. It’s just not perfectly his sound. But if you can play like him, it gets a heck of a lot closer.

Yeah, I've previously looked at most liked and downloaded in Tonenet and have only downloaded one capture. For the Amalgam 2c+ I tend to eq it by setting the bass to 175/165, mids to 750, treble to 2,100, with varying boosts depending on the room and loudness I'm playing. I also tend to cut the presence to almost zero.

 

[Dadbodblues]

What guitar are you using?

For this type of tone I use 2 Ibanez RGs, my favorite being my RG 1450 with TZ/AN pickups and another RG with Dimarzio PAF 36th pickups.

 

[Stone]

Good Lord I'd hate to endlessly folder dive for amps, and then do the same for IR,s ughhhh

 

[Deadpan]

Shameless plug but I live this amp.

MK 7

All of the best Mark based amps in one head. Sonically perfect.

www.tone.net

 

[Jkist7]

I like this guy's stuff:

ToneX Dream Theater Pack (ToneX FX)

Warning: This Pack Requires firmware 1.8. Make sure to update your ToneX before buying! ToneX Dream Theater Pack was crafted to recreate the sound...

www.galtonestudio.com

Sometimes he goes over the top with the effects, but if you want fully built presets with effects and everything that will get you close, this is a nice quick solution.

 

[EOengineer]

A Mark amp is probably the worst type of amp for capture use. I don't want an amp with 15 modes and 37 controls to be reduced down to a static capture with zero ability to adjust it realistically.

Nothing will beat the flexibility of the amp with full native control, but how often are we really toggling between more than 2-3 different core amp sounds?

I am sure you could get a great capture with whatever platform. But I will ALWAYS want those controls to tweak a Mark to my liking, no matter how good the sound at the moment of capture is. This would be compounded by the fact that a Mark sounds great one minute and needs tweaked the next. Without those controls; hard pass.

I wonder if that variability disappears once you’ve loaded the Mark tones into something…well…non variable?

As far as live tweaks, the majority of my mine are usually the GEQ, which would still generally be covered by almost anything digital as global EQs are so common in that realm.

I’ve never used Mesa captures live though. Genuinely curious how it would go but I’m guessing it wouldn’t be that bad.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Nothing will beat the flexibility of the amp with full native control, but how often are we really toggling between more than 2-3 different core amp sounds?


I wonder if that variability disappears once you’ve loaded the Mark tones into something…well…non variable?

As far as live tweaks, the majority of my mine are usually the GEQ, which would still generally be covered by almost anything digital as global EQs are so common in that realm.

I’ve never used Mesa captures live though. Genuinely curious how it would go but I’m guessing it wouldn’t be that bad.

If I am using a Mark amp; I want the controls. Not a reasonable facsimile or something in the ballpark. That's just how my brain works. I am sure captures would be fine if you can avoid that sort of self fulfilling OCD trap.

 

[Richard_G]

I want both. Or actually all three; the physical amp, modeler versions and captures.