IK TONEX CAB

[mercifulfuzziness]

New TONEX CAB



And no, I am not going to buy
Okay, maybe

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

 

[BenIfin]

Obviously haven't played one, but on paper and looking at the feature set and physical build and controls and tilt etc.... and the price - this looks like a great 1x12 "FRFR"-style unit option .... my only quirk is given EQ / Presets / Mic-Live Mix / IR Loader etc... this will add [yet] another AD-DA layer and therefore a few more ms of overall Latency layer

 

[BenIfin]

..... tonex cab doesn't seem to be on their website yet

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

..... doesn't seem to be on their website yet

There is not much to be found yet. It seems like it was just released?

https://www.gearnews.com/ik-multimedia-tonex-cab-guitar/

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

..... doesn't seem to be on their website yet

Here it is on their own website: https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/tonexcab/

 

[EOengineer]

The apparent success of the Fender FR-10/12 is likely gonna spawn a bunch of these “full range” guitar speaker driven powered boxes with moveable high/low pass filters.

Not sure I trust IK’s product design team to get this right. Will be interested to see what the latency figures look like and whether you can bypass the processing to avoid it.

 

[jellodog]

Cordy already has a TONEX CAB and has used it live:

 

[jellodog]

It's interesting to note that when Cordy takes the baffle off that the construction looks very similar to the FR-12 design.

That is to say, TONEX CAB is a front-ported two-way with separate cheapish looking asymmetrically placed horn rather than coaxial.

 

[MadMaxG79]

I know this is most likely a stupid question, but why do we need an IR-loader in the "FRFR" Cab? If a guitar player is in the market for an "amp-in-the-room-sounding" "FRFR", aren't they very likely to already be using cabinet modeling? And isn't one of the benefits of using a modeler that you can dynamically change cabinets along with any change to amp sounds?

I guess you can say that an on-board IR-loader opens up the usage of the ToneX Cab to players who AREN'T already into modelers, I just didn't think that that would be a very large market?

 

[Sascha Franck]

Without having looked up the details yet, I instantly noticed one thing that sets them MILES apart from the Fender, Mission Engineering, Laney, Powercab and whatever wanna-look-like-a-guitar-cab nonsense, namely the aux input!

You won't believe how often I was running into "Oops, no dedicated monitor for the guitar playing idiot, sooo sorry!" situations during the last years. I usually only need some keys on my monitor, so what I do in these situations is to get a DI box (there's always 2 with me in my utility case/bag), grab a split signal from the keys and run it into my bog standard FR wedge monitor. Problem solved instantly.
No way to do this with the mentioned items that are apparently designed by utterly clueless folks. I mean, one of the advances of FR amplification would be that you can run any signal (and more than one signal simultaneously!) into them. Leaving that option out is just stupid. And how much does it cost to add a simple aux input? Right, next to nothing.

So, that alone has me interested.

 

[Sascha Franck]

but why do we need an IR-loader in the """FRFR""" Cab?

To amplify, say, AITB pedals. To free up some DSP power (defenitely a thing in case you're using, say, an HX Stomp). And maybe even because you explicitely *don't* want to switch cabs along with patches (I for one never switch cabs during single gigs, IMO it way easier to set things up that way, FOH folks seem to be pretty happy, too). Or maybe for a wet/dry/wet setup. Etc.

 

[EOengineer]

I know this is most likely a stupid question, but why do we need an IR-loader in the ""FRFR"" Cab? If a guitar player is in the market for an "amp-in-the-room-sounding" ""FRFR"", aren't they very likely to already be using cabinet modeling? And isn't one of the benefits of using a modeler that you can dynamically change cabinets along with any change to amp sounds?

I guess you can say that an on-board IR-loader opens up the usage of the ToneX Cab to players who AREN'T already into modelers, I just didn't think that that would be a very large market?

It does open up options if I just want to gig my Superlead of doom into a Suhr reactive load and straight into the monitor. It also might open up options for folks using less capable modelers in elaborate rigs with who knows what routing.

I’m not really sold on the utility of having the IR loader built into the speaker though. When the next generation of speaker simulation tech inevitably comes along we’re gonna have all this hardware anchored in stale tech. Seems like an obvious mistake.

 

[Stone]

Well this seems Interesting, although could not find any CDN pricing as it will be available in April
Think this is what most folks have been wanting from a "FRFR" Cab
Interesting note as well no need to send a really hot signal to this cab to make it optimal

Time to sell your Fenders ?

IK Multimedia ToneX Cab: Best Speaker for your Amp Modeler? - gearnews.com

The Tonex family has a new member with the guitar speaker Tonex Cab. It includes an IR loader and loads of handy features.

www.gearnews.com

 

[Lysander]

Has anyone managed to find the dimensions? Weight is ~13kg, but for my life i cannot find any other specs online for the thing.

Wonder if this is smaller than Fender's FR-12 - that'd interest me as a "FRFR" solution for a smaller room i have.

 

[EOengineer]

Has anyone found the dimensions? Weight is ~13kg, but for my life i cannot find any other specs online for the thing.

Wonder if this is smaller than Fender's FR-12 - that'd interest me as a ""FRFR"" solution for a smaller room i have.

I’ve seen a couple mentions of the FR-12 and size concerns. I thought it was the same size as your usual HRD 1x12 combo, which I would consider pretty compact. Is the FR-12 bigger than that?

 

[Lysander]

I know this is most likely a stupid question, but why do we need an IR-loader in the ""FRFR"" Cab? If a guitar player is in the market for an "amp-in-the-room-sounding" ""FRFR"", aren't they very likely to already be using cabinet modeling? And isn't one of the benefits of using a modeler that you can dynamically change cabinets along with any change to amp sounds?

It has been done many times before - Line 6's Powercab, Kemper's Kone, etc.. The main appeal of having an integrated IR loader is that you can plug in preamps directly and they'll sound good, without the need for a full-fledged modeler.

Having said that, i owned a PC 112 and never bothered to run it in anything other than flat mode.

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

So this cab is a nothing new under the sun type of thing?

 

[Lysander]

I’ve seen a couple mentions of the FR-12 and size concerns. I thought it was the same size as your usual HRD 1x12 combo, which I would consider pretty compact.

No - it's about the exact same size as a Hot Rod Deluxe. It's just that wall space is really a premium where i need it.

The FR-10 is smaller at 49x43x24cm and reportedly sounds just as good as its bigger brother, so i was considering that instead, but if this ToneX Cab is any good...

 

[EOengineer]

Having said that, i owned a PC 112 and never bothered to run it in anything other than flat mode.

Similar read here. The IR loader in the cab feels like one of those things that perhaps looks intriguing on paper but ends up not being real-world useful.