IK Multimedia TONEX

[Sascha Franck]

All of this would have been easier for IK’s customers if (1) IK made hardware with better specs

Unfortunately that's the main issue. While I haven't yet checked myself, no digital guitar device should clip in the input stage when only feeding it with what's pretty standard pickups (and no additional boost or whatsoever).

 

[Richard_G]

I absolutely agree!

 

[Progressive_disclosure]

Thanks @Richard_G and @Sascha Franck I’ll test this a bit when I have the time. Just rewired shit yesterday to have the TO in front of the Stomp. I do hit it with either high output PU’s, a boost or even a full preamp so there might be differences in sound if I adjust to not clip the input.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Really curious about whether I'm actually running into clipping with my current setups (won't be able to tell before the 1st (xmas family travel)).

 

[Richard_G]

One thing is certain: thoughtful gain staging is very important with TONEX—both in the physical chain and within TONEX (i.e., calibration of captures).

 

[Sascha Franck]

One thing is certain: thoughtful gain staging is very important with TONEX—both in the physical chain and within TONEX (i.e., calibration of captures).

I've adjusted my Tonex channel preset so captures receive the same levels in both the hardware and the plugin. Unfortunately, quite some captures are made with higher input levels in mind (especially IK's own), so there's always some kinda guesswork - or rather: trial and error - involved. But I seem to be getting along fine. Defenitely helps that I don't give a damn about authenticity.

 

[Richard_G]

I also set things up so I hit the capture the same way in both the plugin and the hardware, but I DO care about authenticity, so I aim for a level informed by the level used when the capture was made.

 

[Deleted member 3656]

So I spent quite some time googling about the topic. Some say helix clips in a similar way. And one audio interface after another clip, even with their pads way down (the way described). It's an epidemic that I thought had been resolved long ago. Apparently not.

 

[Sascha Franck]

So I spent quite some time googling about the topic. Some say helix clips in a similar way. And one audio interface after another clip, even with their pads way down (the way described). It's an epidemic that I thought had been resolved long ago. Apparently not.

Tried with my Motu M2 and the stock pickups of the PRS DGT SE. With the trimpot all the way down, when I slam the bridge pickup (which I even screwed down a little bit), the max peak is around -6dB. So, given that there's quite some hotter pickups and also given that people don't want to give up whatever habits of boosting things with analog pedals, I can absolutely imagine situations where the M2 wouldn't be sufficient anymore.

Fwiw, I remember trying to clip the HX (Floor and Stomp) inputs, and IIRC, I had to hit them a lot harder to get there.

Will check with the TXO when back home.

 

[EOengineer]

Having a little fun today while doing some actual work...

 

[Progressive_disclosure]

Having a little fun today while doing some actual work...

Nice! I’m still coming back to your recto captures from time to time so loooking forward to anything else you’re cooking.

On the other hand I have now deregistered and will sell my Tonex One pedal. Like I mentioned before I’ve had a lot of fun setting up a waveshare zero and BT footswitch to control it. But when I reflected over Christmas break on what I’ve spent my time on I realized this stuff had turned into a distraction from actually playing guitar in the limited time I have available. I’ve also gotten rid of my HX Stomp for the same reasons. Instead I’ve set up a MainStage file now for easy switching between three channels and my Tonex/NAM adventures will continue there instead. Hopefully I’ll settle on some combos of captures and FX and be content…

Mind that I’m a bedroom player so I really don’t need much dedicated HW, and I’m not dissing the TO or HX Stomp in any way. Or wait, maybe the TO for being noisy and weird with levels, haha.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Fwiw, I wish Tonex would offer a capture procedure as easy as the "use your own capture file" method Tonex3000 is allowing for. Way less room for leveling issues.

 

[EOengineer]

This is just a single shot for now - still playing around with capturing the Mark III. Trying to get a feel for it.

Mesa Mark III Grind

A Grinding Mesa Mark III Tone

www.tone.net

 

[Shask]

Having a little fun today while doing some actual work...

Holy crap that is a huge ETA, lol. It takes me about 8 minutes to complete 1 capture.

I did about 15 captures this weekend of some of my Synergy modules. I am really happy with how they are sounding through IRs on the computer.

 

[EOengineer]

Holy crap that is a huge ETA, lol. It takes me about 8 minutes to complete 1 capture.

I did about 15 captures this weekend of some of my Synergy modules. I am really happy with how they are sounding through IRs on the computer.

M1 Mac and Tonex do not play super nice. I think Apple silicon in general struggles with Tonex.

 

[Shask]

M1 Mac and Tonex do not play super nice. I think Apple silicon in general struggles with Tonex.

Apple seems to struggle with everything, lol

Sorry, not a fan. I got a new PC last year with a 5070 GPU, so it goes through captures pretty quickly. I will run about 6-8 of them, and then start the queue, go do something, come back in 30-40 min and they are done. However, I couldn't even capture at all until V2, because the old modeler didn't support newer GPUs.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Apple seems to struggle with everything, lol

Sorry, not a fan. I got a new PC last year with a 5070 GPU, so it goes through captures pretty quickly. I will run about 6-8 of them, and then start the queue, go do something, come back in 30-40 min and they are done. However, I couldn't even capture at all until V2, because the old modeler didn't support newer GPUs.

They really don’t struggle at all, with most apps.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Why has Dimiguitar been deleted?

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

I don't know, but hope all is good.

There was a lot of tension building between a few people, amidst a conversation about ''IRs'' the other day.

I figured something happened and I missed it, or he just left for other reasons?

 

[Sascha Franck]

There was a lot of tension building between a few people, amidst a conversation about ''IRs'' the other day.

I know, I followed that thread. Didn't seem to me as if he had gotten abrasive or whatever. I mean, he always seemed like a pretty balanced guy.