IK Multimedia TONEX

[Byrdman]

Made and uploaded my fist capture last night/this morning! Details & How To in this thread started by @Progressive_disclosure:

https://thegearforum.com/threads/settings-guide-for-tonex-nam-capturing-with-an-hx-stomp.9867/

My Capture:

Origin 50H Plexi Mod

Gain 80%

www.tone.net

Please try it out and let me know what you think good and bad so I can do better next time. Thanks!

 

[Chocol8]

Hey, this might be a shot in the dark, and sorry if something like this has been asked before in the thread.. I have an Amplifire 3 lying around with little use.. how would you guys compare the tones between the two of them (toned va af3).. would be worth it to switch?
I only use it for when I want to have another flavours to my main amp.

I have a AA6 that hasn’t been plugged in since I got my first Tonex Pedal. The Amplifier was pretty good for its time and it does still sound as good as ever, but I do think the feel of a good capture on Tonex is another level.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Fwiw, looks as if the Dumble capture that I stumbled upon after 2 minutes into the thing will become my de facto pedal platform. It's just fantastic.

Also, people are so often talking about how captures are less tweakable than component modeled amps - and while that certainly is true, once you're in the ballpark, the onboard EQ of the Tonex is defenitely quite powerful to adjust things in order to accomodate a certain musical environment. With that particular Dumble capture I also think that the gain knob is working pretty well from pristine clean to a pretty mellow bluesy kinda overdrive. No idea how differently the real deal would act, but I'm absolutely fine with that.

Also, the Tonex takes pedals like a champ. Things have been pretty decent with the Amplifirebox already, but this is very noticeably upping the game for me.

 

[rookie]

I have a AA6 that hasn’t been plugged in since I got my first Tonex Pedal. The Amplifier was pretty good for its time and it does still sound as good as ever, but I do think the feel of a good capture on Tonex is another level.

Thanks a lot. ToneX is tempting me, actually.

 

[Byrdman]

Thanks a lot. ToneX is tempting me, actually.

The software has a ways to go but it's much better that it was when it first came out. IMO it's the only drawback.

Other than that it's great and I'm thinking about picking up a ToneX 1 to add to my OG Tonex to load stomps on.

 

[Byrdman]

I just uploaded another tone of my Origin 50H Dimed and a Marshall SC20H Capture. If you want to check them out and give feedback:

ToneNET

TONEX Tone Model sharing community

www.tone.net

 

[Dimiguitar]

I just uploaded another tone of my Origin 50H Dimed and a Marshall SC20H Capture. If you want to check them out and give feedback:

ToneNET

TONEX Tone Model sharing community

www.tone.net

Do you increase the gain on the capture to better match the source or leave it stock/the way it is after capturing is complete?

 

[Sascha Franck]

I just uploaded another tone of my Origin 50H Dimed and a Marshall SC20H Capture. If you want to check them out and give feedback:

ToneNET

TONEX Tone Model sharing community

www.tone.net

How TF do I find this in the plugin?!?
Or how do I just download it?

Edit: Ok, got it. Forgot to click in the right place yet again.
Seriously, all this is an incredible mess.

 

[Sascha Franck]

And fwiw, when I download those, there's no cab loaded. Isn't it possible to automatically add a VIR so you instantly have an idea of what things should sound like?

 

[Byrdman]

And fwiw, when I download those, there's no cab loaded. Isn't it possible to automatically add a VIR so you instantly have an idea of what things should sound like?

Yes you can add an IR, use VIR, or the stock cabs.

I use my Origin 50H as a pedal platform with a 212 with the band so all my uploads are DI's.

Good luck and let me know what you think please.

 

[Byrdman]

Do you increase the gain on the capture to better match the source or leave it stock/the way it is after capturing is complete?

I just left it stock. It sounded very close when I did the compare screen, so I did not adjust anything

 

[Sascha Franck]

Yes you can add an IR, use VIR, or the stock cabs.

I use my Origin 50H as a pedal platform with a 212 with the band so all my uploads are DI's.

Good luck and let me know what you think please.

They're a bit too gainy for what I like - but I haven't checked diming the gain yet.

Still, as far as cabs go, I do of course know that I can add them on my own - but to get an idea of how you think the amp is supposed to sound, wouldn't it be a better idea if the VIR setting was already included in the download? I mean, we all know how drastically different cabs can alter an amp's sound, and the ones I checked with so far all sound pretty far away from the audio demos.

 

[Byrdman]

They're a bit too gainy for what I like - but I haven't checked diming the gain yet.

Still, as far as cabs go, I do of course know that I can add them on my own - but to get an idea of how you think the amp is supposed to sound, wouldn't it be a better idea if the VIR setting was already included in the download? I mean, we all know how drastically different cabs can alter an amp's sound, and the ones I checked with so far all sound pretty far away from the audio demos.

Thanks for the feedback. I don't have any mics to capture them with my cabs yet but plan to check that process out soon. I do have an attenuator that has a line out but unsure if it will affect the tone.

Most of the covers we play are higher gain stuff and I usually just roll off the volume on my guitar when I want to clean it up a little.

Thanks again

 

[Sascha Franck]

Thanks for the feedback. I don't have any mics to capture them with my cabs yet but plan to check that process out soon. I do have an attenuator that has a line out but unsure if it will affect the tone.

Nah, no need to capture the cab as well.
I was just wondering whether there's an option to integrate a suitable IR of the Tonex VIR suite into the upload, so people downloading it don't have to do any guesswork.

 

[paisleywookiee]

And fwiw, when I download those, there's no cab loaded. Isn't it possible to automatically add a VIR so you instantly have an idea of what things should sound like?

I'm pretty sure in the plugin you can, but their stupid site doesn't seem to allow it, which is odd. Tone3000 has a few stock IR's, so you can at least see what it sorta sounds like, before downloading it.

 

[Chocol8]

Nah, no need to capture the cab as well.
I was just wondering whether there's an option to integrate a suitable IR of the Tonex VIR suite into the upload, so people downloading it don't have to do any guesswork.

I believe tone net only allows sharing of captures, not presets. Any cab not baked into the capture is added in the preset, not the capture.

You can share preset files with someone directly, but not through the site.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Any cab not baked into the capture is added in the preset, not the capture.

That's quite stupid. You should at least optionally be able to add a VIR to the capture. As is, you simply can't have an idea about how the creator thought things were supposed to sound like.

Tone3000 has a few stock IR's, so you can at least see what it sorta sounds like, before downloading it.

Well, at ToneNET there's the preview thing - what exactly is that using?
Anyhow, guess we can agree that there's plenty of room for improvement.

 

[Chocol8]

As is, you simply can't have an idea about how the creator thought things were supposed to sound like.

Unless you have the same guitar with the same setup through the same pedals (if any) you still would not know what they heard.

I really don’t give a shit what they were thinking anyway. The only thing that matters is “does it sound like I want it to?”

 

[Sascha Franck]

Unless you have the same guitar with the same setup through the same pedals (if any) you still would not know what they heard.

The used cab is responsible for a WAY bigger impact on the overall sound than the guitar.

 

[Chocol8]

The used cab is responsible for a WAY bigger impact on the overall sound than the guitar.

That's why you should pick one YOU like and not give two shits about what someone else thinks. This fixation people have about hearing what the capture maker intended is causing a ton of grief and not helping anyone make music.