Hotone Ampero II Stomp - Review

The price difference of e.g the Valeton GP-200 to the Hotone Ampero 2 Stomp is about 100 €, so I'd say they are reasonably in the same category. Granted, the Valeton has more footswitches and an expression pedal so that's worth something.

At lower end of the price scale, it's always a question of "do I spend a bit more to buy the compact unit that sounds better, or go for the cheaper bigger unit that has more footswitches and whatnot but might not sound as good". I'd rather have e.g a HX Stomp instead of a Pod Go (which I keep forgetting even exists). Or Ampero 2 Stomp over the POD Express and similar.

The A2 Stage might be more worth its price if you consider it a vocal + guitar processor. It has some vocal effects that are not found on the Stomp so I don't know how good they are. But it has a built in mic pre and I don't think you find that feature on anything cheaper.

Purely for guitar, it's harder to say the Stage features are worth an extra 200 € or so over the A2 Stomp. It's not like a HX Stomp -> Helix LT situation where you also double the DSP for around 260 €.


So far the only effect that truly sucks is the String Shifter, which is supposed to down/uptune your guitar similar to the virtual capo pitch shift on Fractal. That effect seems completely broken, or it's not what the manual says it is. It sounds more like a warbling tremolo pitch shift effect.

The fuzz models sound fine, but don't react to guitar volume knob quite right, they seem like they don't clean up as well as real fuzzes can. Drive models are good.

For amp models, I haven't even tried all of them yet because there's so many, but so far the one I haven't liked has been the "Marshell SLP" (100W Marshall Superlead) model. But I can just ignore that exists and use the "Marshell 50" models that sound just fine.

If anything, I actually have to start putting higher standards on the more expensive units. If a unit this cheap is better to use than literally everything above its price range, comes with a comparable software editor, can run up to 12 fx blocks etc. If its sounds are let's say 80% as good, we are paying a lot for that extra quality and additional features.

Like how is a Nano Cortex worth more than this, with only 4 fx with one type each and only captures? If the A2 Stomp gets captures, that makes the NC value even worse.

PS. Ampero 2 Stomp boot time is around 8 seconds.
What are the specs on the conversion?

Why does it support so many fx? Is it because it has a powerful processor, or because there is a lower sampling rate (aliasing/hashing)?

For a pedal board "brain" pedal, it is missing some things.

For a grab and go, it is also missing some things.
 
What are the specs on the conversion?

Why does it support so many fx? Is it because it has a powerful processor, or because there is a lower sampling rate (aliasing/hashing)?

For a pedal board "brain" pedal, it is missing some things.

For a grab and go, it is also missing some things.
I would be guessing but I would bet the over sampling is less on the Hotone products
More like a PodGo vs Helix

I have mentioned it prior but they are getting really good amp modelling probably just needs a few tweaks and a bit more CPU , but I think they are likely one generation off from getting in the ring with some of the biggest players
 
I would be guessing but I would bet the over sampling is less on the Hotone products
More like a PodGo vs Helix

I have mentioned it prior but they are getting really good amp modelling probably just needs a few tweaks and a bit more CPU , but I think they are likely one generation off from getting in the ring with some of the biggest players
The inexpensive chinese ones seem more able to iterate on their design than the big players like Line6 and Boss.

I remember when boss released the GT1 (which everyone loved at the time) and the next year Mooer seemed to base their entire product line up on that design, with a dedicated button to select each FX block.

This new Hotone is a cross between the HX stomp with a generic touch interface like new Zoom or Headrush. Or maybe they took the Helix UI code and modded it to work on touch.

I suspect the chinese brands are using reverse engineered algorithms. If their algorithms aren't up to par, its probably because they cloned a Zoom pedal from a couple years ago. They will always be a year behind the big players in sound, there is no way to stop it from happening.

I absolutely do not believe they are developing their own algorithms; once they have access to the code it is in the Chinese "public domain" and the best version will show up in all the platforms. It is not difficult to access and reverse compile assembly. The Hotone probably using the exact same algos as the Mooer, which was probably copied from a Zoom or Headrush. Those pedals probably manufactured in the same factories contracted by Line6. Its much easier to keep building generic MFX clones when the western orders stop than it is to retool for something else.
 
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