We’re crossing a few streams here, though. That intonation problem persists even in E standard, with 10’s - which shouldn’t be a tall order. I’ll look at turning the saddle around, though - thanks!
Yeah, definitely. As I said, going back to E standard does help a lot, but not entirely. I think the remaining difficulty is your typical friction at nut/bridge, but yeesh - much worse than I’ve encountered on any other guitar.My hunch is those lighter strings and downtuning to C# may not be providing enough tension. Especially
on a shorter 24.75 Gibson scale length like on the SG. So going with some stouter strings could do it.
Good luck.
My SG is probably tied as my favourite guitar with the 335. Love Gibsons. Send the Mob!
Appreciate it.
I might be a little pickyDo you actually like anything?
White SGs are That weird coffee table red brown look is just gross to me? The Rose Gold that @metropolis_4 is FANTASTIC and not one I would expect myself to like from description alone?
I never liked the look of SGs - always thought they looked like a goofy Batman prop. I bought this one because I wanted a fixed bridge guitar specifically to work on detuned Sabbath stuff, and it just so fit the bill. Immediate impressions were much like your own - geometry and weight distribution are weird; it always feels like it's running away from you. But I've made my peace with all of that (translation: it's too late to send it back LOL), and this particular SG does look cool as Hell, what with the Iommi fanboy inlays and all.
The smart folks understand the implication
I hear ya. Do you have much experience with fixed bridge LP style non locking nut guitars? I ask because I went years improperly stringing these instruments and complained about tuning issues too. The wind should look like the attached where the first wind is caught under the rest of them. Short of that, the nut would be the other concern.I never liked the look of SGs - always thought they looked like a goofy Batman prop. I bought this one because I wanted a fixed bridge guitar specifically to work on detuned Sabbath stuff, and it just so fit the bill. Immediate impressions were much like your own - geometry and weight distribution are weird; it always feels like it's running away from you. But I've made my peace with all of that (translation: it's too late to send it back LOL), and this particular SG does look cool as Hell, what with the Iommi fanboy inlays and all.
I just have to figure out to get the thing to hold its tuning. And honestly, in absence of a fully floating bridge, that shouldn't be such a big ask from a ~$900 guitar.
I was never a LP guy, but I went through a “Hamer phase” that included a lot of tune-o-matic guitars (Artists, etc.) that may as well have been LPs. Still, your point is well-taken. Most of my guitars have locking tuners or locking nuts, and I can get a little sloppy about securing the strings properly on guitars that don’t. Will triple-check this.
Drilling into that guitar is probably a really bad idea, especially if you come to realize you just wont get along with it and want to cut your losses and liquidate it into some cash. Try restringing it, if still a problem the nut may be worth looking at. After that I say burn the damn thing.
Agree 100%. A lot of people will say, “It’s just an Indonesian Epiphone; drill it, do whatever tf you want with it.” But this neglects the fact that it is a somewhat collectible, identifiable, limited run instrument, and a lot of its value lies in its being all-original - however big or small that value may be.
Well, again, my guitar has issues even in E standard, but I suspect it’s a combination of things. It is MUCH worse in C#, so that’s probably a matter of string gauge. Minor issues in E are probably the typical nut/ lubrication concerns. And maybe eventually these tuning machines will have to go. It is encouraging to hear about your successes with SGs, though.Not sure what to tell ya. I’ve had 3 SGs and all of them have been perfect for me. Sold the SG Classic because it had the notorious neck dive. So I guess that one wasn’t perfect. My first standard I sold because I wanted another Les Paul Standard. But current remaining SG (pictured) is just a joy to play. Holds tuning like a champ - whether sitting on a stand or hanging on the wall, I can pick it up after weeks, and it’ll still be perfectly in tune. Boomer bends like a champ…stays in tune. Granted I’m not doing any drop tuning or downtuning, so maybe that’s the issue. But I haven’t had the poor experience you’ve apparently had that suggests that it’s a flawed design that’s never been fixed.
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I ordered a set of the trivium 7 string pack for my 7 string LP. Better be fantastic for the price lol
