Friedman Guitars

[Achilles]

Michael Nielson uses them a lot and Doug Rappaport's using one in that Friedman Plexi thread.
Anyone own one? Played one?

HUGE bucks, all things considered. Are they anywhere near worth it?

 

[Stone]

No, its a piece of wood with a few bits of metal hardware

 

[Achilles]

No, its a piece of wood with a few bits of metal hardware

$3,500 for a Fender Custom Shop Wildwood Select 57 Re-issue, I'd think about.

But Friedman?
The amp guy??

 

[Rock Chalk]

I’ve heard good things about them….$3500 good?……don’t know. I do dig the headstocks though….

 

[la szum]

Didn't he partner with Grover Jackson for the Friedman line?

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I thought those were made by Shabatt

Shabat Guitars – Custom Electric Guitars & Custom Bass Guitars

shabatguitars.com

 

[Achilles]

Didn't he partner with Grover Jackson for the Friedman line?

Google says:

Yup, since 2018.

 

[MindCrime]

They are very good. I had a Friedman Vintage T w/P90s hard tail. All I ever had to do is change strings when I needed to.....period !
And his guitars are plekked before they leave his shop. I bought mine 2nd hand for $1,800.

This one was mine & I miss it !

 

[Achilles]

I thought those were made by Shabatt

Shabat Guitars – Custom Electric Guitars & Custom Bass Guitars

shabatguitars.com

Maybe same factory? Headstock and pickguard sure has a similar aesthetic.....

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

My bad…they used to be made by Grover Jackson now those guys make em

Rock N Roll Relics

Quality, Crafted electric guitars built in Los Angeles, California. Rock N Roll Relics is best known for it's custom models. We specialize in relicing and lacquer finishes.

rocknrollrelics.com

Which is funny since their stuff is putting kits together and relic’ing them iirc.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Maybe same factory? Headstock and pickguard sure has a similar aesthetic.....

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Ah my memory isn’t faulty Shabbat designed and originally built them, then GJ now RnR Relics.

 

[Rock Chalk]

I’d say all bets are off since they changed companies.

 

[Achilles]

Ah my memory isn’t faulty Shabbat designed and originally built them, then GJ now RnR Relics.

Looks like Dave didn't have rights to the design cause the Shabbat and Friedman could be twins looking at them.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Looks like Dave didn't have rights to the design cause the Shabbat and Friedman could be twins looking at them.

Who does in that industry

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I’d say all bets are off since they changed companies.

Which time? First or second?

 

[Achilles]

It's confusing. Supposedly Grover's been working with Dave since 2018. That's already 6 years ago - how the heck long has Friedman been selling guitars?

Has Grover been hands on with all 3 factories or is it just his name to get legitimacy in the market?

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

It's confusing. Supposedly Grover's been working with Dave since 2018. That's already 6 years ago - how the heck long has Friedman been selling guitars?

Has Grover been hands on with all 3 factories or is it just his name to get legitimacy in the market?

Factories???
You mean Shabbat, GJ, and RnR Relics.

Let’s see Avi Shabatt went from repair to built in 2012 I think. Googling I just stumbled over s/n 32 so that would make sense to be prior to 2018.

I mean how hands on can anything be when the guys making them now assemble kits. Assuming it’s true which I tend to believe it likely is.

But then how is that different than Pensa-Suhr back in the day.

 

[Achilles]

But then how is that different than Pensa-Suhr back in the day.

Quantities.
Friedman's are carried by pretty much everyone so they gotta be building in pretty large batches.

 

[Achilles]

I mean how hands on can anything be when the guys making them now assemble kits.

If you think about it that's all Fender's pretty much ever done.
1 person cuts 1,000 necks, someone else 1,000 bodies, etc. etc.
Then the individual parts are put into stock until someone pulls a KIT/lot/batch of 250 sets to bolt together as one model or another.

 

[Rock Chalk]

Which time? First or second?

Both.......