Fractal VP4 Owners Discussion

Is there a way to just keep the screen on the scenes page (like an FM3, FM9, etc)? I don't need to see the effects view all the time, especially at gigs.
 
A bunch of idle questions - with the VP4, can you change the current mode via midi? Can you tap the tempo via a midi CC? What do people think of the spillover performance? Does it match the Axe3?

Can you rearrange the ordering of the pedals so that the processing goes 4>3>2>1 ?

What are the various options for the hold modifier on each button?

Can you activate the tuner from a midi CC? Can you set the tuner to automatically mute when it opens?

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I'm wondering if I can do this, and use the MC6 for the following:

A == scene mode
B == stomp mode
C == tap tempo
D == preset mode
E == empty
F == tuner

My Mark V footswitch would sit on the floor off to the side of the board.
 
Orvillain said:
A bunch of idle questions - with the VP4, can you change the current mode via midi? Can you tap the tempo via a midi CC? What do people think of the spillover performance? Does it match the Axe3?

Can you rearrange the ordering of the pedals so that the processing goes 4>3>2>1 ?

What are the various options for the hold modifier on each button?

Can you activate the tuner from a midi CC? Can you set the tuner to automatically mute when it opens?

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I'm wondering if I can do this, and use the MC6 for the following:

A == scene mode
B == stomp mode
C == tap tempo
D == preset mode
E == empty
F == tuner

My Mark V footswitch would sit on the floor off to the side of the board.
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stop going in circles on complicated gear that you'll just get wound up with and use individual fx pedals you old bat
 
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Orvillain said:
Nah, the more I think about it, the VP4 is really hitting that right spot in terms of simplicity versus flexibility.
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I'm going the other way with the VP4 now tbh. I'm concerned there'll be too much to tweak! I'm primarily going to use it for delay and reverb and I'm thinking a source audio collider might suit me better. Or wildcard going back to a MXR M300 (another pedal that I don't know why I sold) and a Boss DD200.
 
I've been 50/50 on the VP4 since I got it and may end up selling soon. Part of my thinking is to see where they go with the platform and sell it later if other things grab my attention. The VP4 is super convenient to configure for mono vs. stereo to amps or 4CM at the end of a pedalboard chain. However, there is a tone change through the DSP that is pretty subtle and probably nothing as a fault with the I/O and AD design, but for my ears is more noticeable than Strymon or other pedals I own with ADT. If I'm going to have that result, I'd rather use an all-in-one modeler or the full featured FM9 as a pedalboard.
 
Southpaw-DD said:
I've been 50/50 on the VP4 since I got it and may end up selling soon. Part of my thinking is to see where they go with the platform and sell it later if other things grab my attention. The VP4 is super convenient to configure for mono vs. stereo to amps or 4CM at the end of a pedalboard chain. However, there is a tone change through the DSP that is pretty subtle and probably nothing as a fault with the I/O and AD design, but for my ears is more noticeable than Strymon or other pedals I own with ADT. If I'm going to have that result, I'd rather use an all-in-one modeler or the full featured FM9 as a pedalboard.
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I hear you. If the HX effects had the fractal delays and reverbs it would be all I'd use with my amps. The fractal effects keep me with the vp4, but the lack of stereo output in 4cm (i like stereo rigs) and the lack of an amp-switching relay muted my initially very positive feelings for this unit. It's just not as practical as I'd like it to be.
 
SillyOctpuss said:
I'm going the other way with the VP4 now tbh. I'm concerned there'll be too much to tweak! I'm primarily going to use it for delay and reverb and I'm thinking a source audio collider might suit me better. Or wildcard going back to a MXR M300 (another pedal that I don't know why I sold) and a Boss DD200.
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The Source Audio stuff all sounds great. The Collider I really enjoyed and I sold it to @Snags in the end I think. I don't really remember why. I know their pedals don't really work very in the context of a midi switching multi-preset rig; their spillover from preset to preset is basically nonexistent, and the Collider even had weird artifacts when switch that basically meant you needed to just use it for one sound per-song.

Which tbh... fits right in with the 'Keep It Simple Stupid' philosophy. If you take their pedals as a "I hit this switch, it gives ms this sound" scenario, then they work very well and sound bloomin' great - easily up there with the best of them for delay and reverb, but even their non-spatial effects are good.
 
Southpaw-DD said:
However, there is a tone change through the DSP that is pretty subtle and probably nothing as a fault with the I/O and AD design, but for my ears is more noticeable than Strymon or other pedals I own with ADT.
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That's my biggest problem with the HX stomp as part of a pedalboard into the front of an amp. I really like it as a digital rig on its own, into studio monitors or a PA it's fantastic. I even like it with analogue pedals into the front if it's going into a pa but in front of an amp that tonal change bothers the life out of me. It's worse with single coils than humbuckers IMO.

I use mine with a loop Switcher so I can get it out of the signal chain if I'm not using it.
 
Orvillain said:
Which tbh... fits right in with the 'Keep It Simple Stupid' philosophy. If you take their pedals as a "I hit this switch, it gives ms this sound" scenario, then they work very well and sound bloomin' great - easily up there with the best of them for delay and reverb, but even their non-spatial effects are good.
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See I think that fits the way I work just fine. I won't change reverbs in a song or delays tbh. I'll keep an analogue or analogish delay pedal on my board to use with something like the collider.

If I'm honest with myself I want to menu dive as little as possible and don't want hundreds of options. Once I find things I like I tend to stick with them.

When I started building pedals I used to add every mod and option possible via toggle switches. After a while I realised I'd tweak until I found my favourite options on each pedal and then never really touch it again. These days I do all that stuff at the breadboard stage and then just build the pedal I want it to be.
 
Southpaw-DD said:
I've been 50/50 on the VP4 since I got it and may end up selling soon. Part of my thinking is to see where they go with the platform and sell it later if other things grab my attention. The VP4 is super convenient to configure for mono vs. stereo to amps or 4CM at the end of a pedalboard chain. However, there is a tone change through the DSP that is pretty subtle and probably nothing as a fault with the I/O and AD design, but for my ears is more noticeable than Strymon or other pedals I own with ADT. If I'm going to have that result, I'd rather use an all-in-one modeler or the full featured FM9 as a pedalboard.
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Have you considering running it through a parallel mixer w/kill-dry enabled?
 
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