Well, now that I spent an evening and a morning using the FM3 as a monitor I'm going back to plugging it into a fancy interface, probably should have searched for the 24-page thread about this first
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I just stumbled on Factory Preset 229, which is a Marshall Studio 20 in a variety of configs (jumped, normal, some FX, drive, etc.) and man that might be the best amp in this thing for me at this point. I've always liked their Marshalls best of all the big modelers (outside of the JVM) but the Studio 20 is so good I'm half-tempted to pick up a real one. Right in the wheelhouse of the tone I like, cleans up great with the guitar knob, Hendrix-y in the mid-gain, and can get full gnarly dimed. Just lovely.
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Updated the FM9 this morning, and once that was done I went straight to one of the presets I have for a 4CM with my Studio JTM. Replaced the drive in it with the Angry Chuck, and I’m loving the combination. I had only messed around briefly with it in the Axe FX, but not with any of my actual amps.
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It’s a great amp in person too! Love mine.
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Only heard a Metroppoulos being played at an amp show. Didn’t play it. It sounded really good though.
Played most of Friedman’s Marshall style amps. Owned a modded Plexi build he did the mods on. It was ok but not what I look for. Also for a hot minute owned a Cameron modded Marshall that Dave had put his basic clean channel in afterwards. Never saw what other people saw in the Cameron amps. Anyway Dave’s amps to me sound alright but not really a Marshall in feel and top end IMHO. That said in think his Plex is the better of his I’ve played.
I have a Suhr SL68 which is his take on a plexi. I like it a lot. Not played an old Plexi in so long so and that’s only been in passing so can’t say how it compares but it does what I like in a Plexi style amp so I keep it.
Anyway… did a decent amount of back and forth with it and the Bogner over the holiday weekend and they to do overlap more so than I thought it would. Honestly I thought maybe the Uber Ultra might have more in common. This one is pretty Marshall style. The Bogner Snokeler is very cool and more of a Marshall than the other Bogner amps I’ve tried like the Helios that I haven’t owned but played in Nashville. Since I don’t have to sell something right now to keep the Bogner I’ll keep both for now unless I need to move something then I’ll keep one and have a great sounding Marshall type amp covered. I like having a more straight up Marshall tone to mix with sounds from amps like Bogner’s or Fryette or the those thicker sounding modern amps. I think a great plexi mixed in at times with those heavier sounds is cool for what I like. So that’s why I have both modern and classic. I’ve given up on finding one amp to cover that ground like I’d prefer and being able to do that in the modeling world is easy and cool but I like doing it in the analog world too because it sounds great. I see why Adam Jones does it.
PS I think the blue channel on the Snorkeler is what I wished the XTC’s blue channel was like. The red channel is cool but man the blue is great too.
Need to let this get back to talking about Fractal
Thanks for the detailed breakdown.
I agree that classic Plexi and a Modded Marshall (800-ish) are so different, and so equally great,
that having one of each would be ideal.
I have owned/tried a few amps that tried to do both and I am not sure it is feasible. At least not
for me. You end up with a bit of compromise somewhere.
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I didn’t know that the VP4 is going to get IR support - I would not have recently bought my Helix if I knew that 
so my plan is to sell it when that update hits and buy a used VP4 to use for post amp FX/audio interface and monitoring.
so my plan is to sell it when that update hits and buy a used VP4 to use for post amp FX/audio interface and monitoring.Mongillo19
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Just make sure the VP4 can actually handle all the I/Os you want it to.I didn’t know that the VP4 is going to get IR support - I would not have recently bought my Helix if I knew that
I had the VP4 very briefly but it's not as flexible routing wise as the full modeling units imo
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I’m just going guitar > pedals > amp > VP4 > usb to Mac and two outs to studio monitors, or it would go back into the FX loop of my Mesa if I’m using my cab which is a lot more rare of a case
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Gotcha! Yeah that's what I essentially used it for. Although I ran th outputs into my AI
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Axe-Fx III Firmware 29.00 Public Beta
https://www.fractalaudio.com/downloads/firmware-presets/axe-fx-3/29p0/axefxiii_dsp_rel_29p00_beta1.zip Axe-Fx III Firmware Release Notes 29.00 Improved Amp block preamp modeling. Most amp models have been updated as a result. Audition presets and adjust as necessary. Changed name of Supro...
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