Everyone is excited about Portnoy being back, but….

SillyOctpuss said:
I don't think I've ever heard dream theatre tbh. I know people who were into them but I can't remember ever hearing them.
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paisleywookiee said:
Well, no one knows what the agreement was either. Was he fired? Or was he told this wasn’t forever?
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Also, maybe he was ready for a change, tired of touring, etc?

But I'd imagine he'd have been aware of this dynamic from the start. Similar to the guy who replaced Frusciante in RHCP: you'd never feel like there wasn't a possibility of the original dude returning and you being out of a job.

(Although, I gather DT/Petrucci often said it would never happen, so who knows, only the band, really...)
 
I had periods where I could listen to Images and Words and Awake...the album after that was a snooze fest, and then I went and listened to a pretty long full concept EP from somewhere in the mid to late 90s and just....could...not...take...the concepting. I've popped back in from time to time and...still can't take it. At this point, I don't think I could get through even Images and Words or Awake complete in one sitting.

There are is a lot of classical music in the 15-25 minute length that I can get through no problem, but once we're into drums and electric instruments...I can't do it.
 
TubeStack said:
Also, maybe he was ready for a change, tired of touring, etc?

But I'd imagine he'd have been aware of this dynamic from the start. Similar to the guy who replaced Frusciante in RHCP: you'd never feel like there wasn't a possibility of the original dude returning and you being out of a job.

(Although, I gather DT/Petrucci often said it would never happen, so who knows, only the band, really...)
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After being a DT fan as long as I’ve been one, I’ve formed the opinion that Petrucci is a bit of a record label Yes man. When Electra wanted them to use outside writers, Pornoy was saying “Fuck that” while Petrucci was interested, it’s documented in the Lifting Shadows book and Portnoy says it was a big thing that put a rift between them. Since the audition documentary was entirely Roadrunner trying to build hype (they wanted to shop it to VH1 or MTV and only released it on their own after being turned down) that I’d imagine anything Petrucci said was at the direction the label.

The majority of people in the real world who have had falling outs with long time friends or family knows none of that shit is ever concrete unless some MAJOR incident occurred, but general “I’m gettin sick of you” stuff tends to wash away with time. The whole time I could not picture that band ending without Portnoy.
 
Keep in mind, the same Mike Portnoy who left the band isn't just going to sit back down on the throne. He's older, has done many other projects, and just like how JP doesn't still write the same way he did back on those beloved albums such as Awake and Images & Words, MP may be quite a different drummer/writing contributor/producer than he was, for better or worse.

He might infuse a bunch of new life into the band, or he may not. I hope it's the former, but we'll have to wait and see.
 
norminal said:
Kind of related. If you liked Live at Tokyo, but have only watched the VHS, this commentary is worth a listen:

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When I got the DVD, which is both Live In Tokyo and Once In A Livetime, I sat down and listened to both the commentaries as I’d already seen the VHSs a million times. At the end of one of them someone says something about people sitting down through both the commentaries as the band recorded them back to back for the DVD release, James says something like “If they just sat through all of that they need to get a fuckin’ life” and I’m just sittin’ there like :whistle
 
DrewJD82 said:
When I got the DVD, which is both Live In Tokyo and Once In A Livetime, I sat down and listened to both the commentaries as I’d already seen the VHSs a million times. At the end of one of them someone says something about people sitting down through both the commentaries as the band recorded them back to back for the DVD release, James says something like “If they just sat through all of that they need to get a fuckin’ life” and I’m just sittin’ there like :whistle
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That’s one of the things I miss about buying DVD’s. Especially concert ones, I always check out the commentaries.
 
Bruce said:
With good reason. There just may be a few measures of feel on the next record.
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Not to mention if it was to get into a mechanical shredfest Kotzen would wipe the floor with him and practically anyone around these days. I bought every Shrapnel CD back in the day and even among all of those ridiculous players it was Kotzen's first release that was easily the scariest imo.
 
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Achilles said:
Not to mention if it was to get into a mechanical shredfest Kotzen would wipe the floor with him and practically anyone around these days. I bought every Shrapnel CD back in the day and even among all of those ridiculous players it was Kotzen's first release that was easily the scariest imo.
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I wouldn’t quite go that far, but he definitely wins the feel, phrasing and tone portions. Plus he sings better than their singer.
 
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