Does the Fractal Deluxe Reverb sound broken to anyone else?

[James Freeman]

@FractalAudio, the official schematic is hard to read.
With the reverb knob at zero there is -27dB attenuation before the third 7025 gain stage, it also lets some high frequencies pass through.
After the third 7025 gain stage the signal goes through a 0.1u+50k HPF, then into a 220k mixer resistor into the phase inverter.
*This post is for general information, or just in case.

 

[FractalAudio]

@FractalAudio, the official schematic is hard to read.
With the reverb knob at zero there is -27dB attenuation before the third 7025 gain stage, it also lets some high frequencies pass through.
After the third 7025 gain stage the signal goes through a 0.1u+50k HPF, then into a 220k mixer resistor into the phase inverter.
*This post is for general information, or just in case.

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The mistake is in the phase inverter, not the reverb recovery. I fat fingered a value.

 

[norminal]

The mistake is in the phase inverter, not the reverb recovery. I fat fingered a value.

 

[djd100]

The mistake is in the phase inverter, not the reverb recovery. I fat fingered a value.

So the work around prior to the fix is to lower the Input Trim.

 

[Frodebro]

The mistake is in the phase inverter, not the reverb recovery. I fat fingered a value.

And this, kids, is one area where digital is by far superior to traditional amps. One little “oopsie” in a modeler is easily rectified with an update. With a traditional amp, thousands of people would need to haul their shit to an authorized service center…. And wait their turn for it to be fixed.

 

[Mongillo19]

With a traditional amp, thousands of people would need to haul their shit to an authorized service center

I dont think a real fender DR value is going to be fat fingered lol

I get what you are saying but I don't think this is a good comparison. A real Fender DR would never have this issue.

 

[Frodebro]

I dont think a real fender DR value is going to be fat fingered lol

I get what you are saying but I don't think this is a good comparison. A real Fender DR would never have this issue.

No, it has other issues that people learned to dismiss as “that’s just the way they are.” In the digital world, you can have a Deluxe that doesn’t fart out when pushed hard if you want.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

No, it has other issues that people learned to dismiss as “that’s just the way they are.” In the digital world, you can have a Deluxe that doesn’t fart out when pushed hard if you want.

You can also, ya know, buy the actually analog amp that does what you want, too.

 

[Frodebro]

You can also, ya know, buy the actually analog amp that does what you want, too.

I would-if it existed. But to get there would require a huge rig with multiple amps and a rack of gear along with them. Or throw an FM9 into a backpack and off I go…

 

[metropolis_4]

Have you done the beta firmware update? I thought you didn't do Beta.

Must be someone else, I always Beta.

I’m playing gigs on Beta this weekend

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Must be someone else, I always Beta.

I’m playing gigs on Beta this weekend

Was replying to la szum who said it sounded fine to him

 

[ucnick]

Vibrato model only or also Normal?

I've been enjoying the Normal model a lot!

It's in the PI which is common to both channels so normal is also affected.

 

[unix-guy]

It's in the PI which is common to both channels so normal is also affected.

But they are 2 different models... Possibly he's only made the mistake in one?

Or are you saying you can you hear it?

 

[FractalAudio]

It's in the PI which is common to both channels so normal is also affected.

It's only the Vibrato channel that is affected.

 

[la szum]

Was replying to la szum who said it sounded fine to him

That is not exactly what I meant. I was making a joke that the DR
breakup is kind of less than smooth and very gritty/granular by nature.

Never doubting Met's ear again.

 

[Frodebro]

That is not exactly what I meant. I was making a joke that the DR
breakup is kind of less than smooth and very gritty/granular by nature.

Never doubting Met's ear again.

Yeah, a Deluxe breaking up is about as smooth as what happens to your tailpipe after a night of drinking and Taco Bell.

 

[DrewJD82]

Yeah, a Deluxe breaking up is about as smooth as what happens to your tailpipe after a night of drinking and Taco Bell.

Well, it’d be smooth if it weren’t for the combustion tank pushing it out at 50mph and a frightened anus all too familiar with hangover Fire Sauce.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Well, it’d be smooth if it weren’t for the combustion tank pushing it out at 50mph and a frightened anus all too familiar with hangover Fire Sauce.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Y’all acting like you don’t love the smell of your own farts.

 

[holoholo]

Ahh now I will always think of an overdriven Fender deluxe reverb when I’m having Taco Bell shits. Thanks, I hate it.