Dimehead NAM Player

The converters and CPU spec, along with all the components, are the best you can get really.

As for ease of use: within the hour I was plain sailing.
To update firmware or upload files (NAM models, Cab and Reverb IRs etc) it's very easy via USB stick.

A while ago I went through all the comment sections of the posts in the NAM fb group / Dimehead's fb page / youtube channel, etc, relating to the pedal since last year and compiled as much info into a doc. This is what Dirk said regarding convertors (possibly a combination of two different comments):

Well that's good to know. Thanks! 🙂

I wish they'd put that on info on the product page, because it was the first place I looked and it wasn't there. Hopefully they'll add more to the page soon.

So if we ignore the specs for a second: Does it sound great to you and are you pleased with the tones you're getting from it? I'm genuinely interested.
 
Oh for sure it sounds good, but that's because it's loading NAMs and IRs. They are the best technologies available today. So, everything will naturally sound good if it's captured properly and is to your liking. (I've made my own NAMs, IRs that I'm happy with). This is literally the best pedal for loading all of your favourite of those formats. There's nothing on the market that has all of those features in one pedal, so it's pretty incredible really =) It's been thought out well, implemented well, and I'm a satisfied customer. =)
 
I just went to pre-order one and I saw that the latest firmware does address both high and low cuts as well as the noise gate!

Was wondering though - what about other effects? Or does this only do amp, IR and reverb? What about delay, mod, comp, etc...?
 
I just went to pre-order one and I saw that the latest firmware does address both high and low cuts as well as the noise gate!

Was wondering though - what about other effects? Or does this only do amp, IR and reverb? What about delay, mod, comp, etc...?
There is a delay included as an effect too ... I believe other options will come with future firmware updates.
 
So, this is one of the very few units loading long IRs with really low latency - but it's mono. But then, the entire architecture doesn't lend to using this for FX anyway, IMO they could've even made this much simpler. NAM loading, pre/post tonestack, IR loading, done. Add endless pots and we're all good to go.
 
So, this is one of the very few units loading long IRs with really low latency - but it's mono. But then, the entire architecture doesn't lend to using this for FX anyway, IMO they could've even made this much simpler. NAM loading, pre/post tonestack, IR loading, done. Add endless pots and we're all good to go.
I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by 'the entire architecture doesn't lend to using fx'
Perhaps you could offer them some feedback on how you'd make it work better, they seem very easy to communicate with whenever I have sent them a message. =)
 
As for price point, I think it's fair. It seems to be getting updated quite often too, so it'll be more worth it as time goes by...
It's not got 'everything', but it's pretty much all I need, and no other products can load NAMs, reverb IRs etc... which is why I want this.
You could buy two for stereo rigs, and still have change compared to a Kemper or QC.
Also, I am fairly sure (in theory) it's more than capable of loading two NAMs in series - and I believe this is being carefully considered for future firmware updates - so, by that point, one of these will be cheaper and able to do more than buying two normal Tonex pedals.
This might have been answered elsewhere, but I couldn't find it: I know the pedal has mono outputs (Line Out and XLR Out) but does it only proces the signal in mono? And if so, I presume the headphone output is dual mono?
 


Ok, after watching this, my verdict would be:

- Amazingly accurate NAM player.
- Even more amazingly low latency.
- Everything else completely messed up.

So, if you really feel you need a super accurate amp capture playback unit (which I could perfectly understand, having fooled around with quite some captures myself ever since I got my new Macbook) in hardware format, then this very certainly should be on the list.
But in case that very unit should also serve any other purposes, this is pretty much among the last units I'd ever consider. Even some of the cheapest chinese knockoffs are beating it in terms of everything else left and right.

At least from what I can gather from Leo Gibson's video, switches are way too close to each other, so you can as well just leave them out because the unit won't be doing well as a standalone for most situations anyway.
Navigating and editing seems to be pretty much a nightmare, easily turning into a clickfest, unless you never adjust your captures at all.
Talking about that, there's very little options to manipulate captures. Which is quite bad in my book. Fwiw, Two Notes have that covered extremely well in the Codex block of their Genome. It seems that Dimehead just took the original NAM Player plugin and sort of copied it into their hardware. But the plugin is running in an environment giving you access to all the tweaking in the world.
I would expect to see at least some basic tone shaping tools straight inside the unit. Pre/post EQ blocks would take you a long way already, add a handful of drives (some pretty simple ones would likely suffice, heck, personally I'd be fine with one TS and one RC Boost style drive) and maybe a simple compressor. That way, you'd at least have all of your core tones inside the unit. For me, that'd be sooo much more worth than an IR reverb. But then, quite obviously editing would become an even more cumbersome experience. Having no editor (and that single USB-A port used for USB hosting isn't exactly indicating things will change...) only adds to that.

So, what I'm wondering is what they think their target market will be.
For recording puposes, you can purchase a decent interface for 200 bucks these days. You could then choose between 3 free NAM player options. And you could easily add some pre-FX to your captures. Personally, I could only see myself using hardware instead if it came with such a great form factor and UI as the Kemper, also allowing for some more tweakings.
It's also got no built in audio interface, so you'd need that in addition, too.

For plain noodling purposes, this isn't too great, either. I mean, it's got no aux/BT/USB audio functionality, so connecting your smartphone and having a blast isn't possible, all you get is your amp sounds and some delay/verb in mono, as long as you want to use headphones. Each and every cheap practising unit (regardless whether it's an amp, a small modeler or whatever) is bringing *much* more comfort to the table.

Which pretty much leaves us with live players. But you either needed to be happy with pretty simple things (so you could use just the unit with maybe 1-2 pedals in addition) or have a pretty elaborated setup with pre/post-FX and MIDI.
Users of the latter would actually be what I'd consider as the most interested target audience. For such a setup, the incredibly low latency certainly adds quite some value. Just imagine running this in the loop of a Boss GT-1000. You'd still be below 3ms in total, quite amazing for a setup with 3 complete ADDA plus processing cycles (having said that, as the unit is so limited on it's own, SPDIF would very likely be a welcomed addition in such contexts).
No idea whether there's enough of such folks to keep their business alive and kicking.

Personally, I'm really wondering. Given the incredibly low latency and apparently very high signal quality, it's making me wonder why they haven't asked more actual players for their opinions (and they pretty clearly haven't done so). IMO with just some things being realized differently, they could easily at least triple their target audience. But as most of these things are hardware related, there's pretty much nothing that could be done via whatever updates. Too bad, really.
 
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Which pretty much leaves us with live players. But you either needed to be happy with pretty simple things (so you could use just the unit with maybe 1-2 pedals in addition) or have a pretty elaborated setup with pre/post-FX and MIDI.
I'd say this is the same target market as the larger Tonex pedal, which is also a bit shitty as an audio interface (requiring booting into a separate mode) and limited as a do-it-all or practice box. Plus the big Tonex is awkward to use for anything except the main two layers of knobs so I'd say the NAM is a bit ahead in that sense at least.

I don't think you or me are the target market for this at all. The pedal fullfills the base premise of NAM captures in a hardware unit, and any other features are extra conveniences because the processing power was there.

Most common usecase is probably just figuring out a handful of captures that you like and then using those as is. If you can make your own NAM captures of your real amps, then it becomes a backup, flyrig etc. The EQ has enough to tweak it a bit for your guitar, output system or venue. I see this as a straightforward thing you'd use in place of an amp, not much different from a Strymon Iridium, UA pedals etc.

IMO plugging a capture box into a multifx modeler is a bit of a fool's errand that just complicates the rig. I'd rather live with whatever limitations the modeler's built-in models might have as there's still usually enough variety to find several that work for your needs.
 
Plus the big Tonex is awkward to use for anything except the main two layers of knobs so I'd say the NAM is a bit ahead in that sense at least.

Well, at least Tonex has all relevant knobs exposed straight (still not endless, but hey, they all seem to be too stupid to understand that...).

I don't think you or me are the target market for this at all.

But who is? I'm genuinely wondering. To me it looks as if their market research was flakey at best.

If you can make your own NAM captures of your real amps, then it becomes a backup, flyrig etc.

Sure - but you need to have baby feet to operate it already.

I see this as a straightforward thing you'd use in place of an amp, not much different from a Strymon Iridium, UA pedals etc.

Yeah - but in that case, the programmability aspect is even getting in the way. Or rather, the lack of quick access is. Which IMO is one of the big points about the Iridium, the UA stuff, the Amplifirebox and what not. In other words: It's not straightforward enough for people used to using analog stuff, either. Too many things are hidden in menus.

IMO plugging a capture box into a multifx modeler is a bit of a fool's errand that just complicates the rig. I'd rather live with whatever limitations the modeler's built-in models might have as there's still usually enough variety to find several that work for your needs.

Pretty much the same here.
But if I was, say, using a GT-1000, this thing might be of interest because a) the GT comes with a limited amp selection and b) latency won't be an issue. However, I doubt there's too many users in the GT-1000 niche interested in pimping their unit.
For all other modelers, I'm absolutely with you: it's likely pointless. I mean, especially the decent ones have vast collections of great sounding amps, so adding this just for the last 5% of accuracy when you have to deal with MIDI, saving presets on multiple units, additional PSUs, cables and what not - you need to have quite some masochistic tendencies to go there. Or a tech doing it all for you.
 
Yeah - but in that case, the programmability aspect is even getting in the way. Or rather, the lack of quick access is. Which IMO is one of the big points about the Iridium, the UA stuff, the Amplifirebox and what not. In other words: It's not straightforward enough for people used to using analog stuff, either. Too many things are hidden in menus.
IMO enough of the basic controls are easily accessible from the main screen, only things like IR low/high pass and reverb or delay settings seem to be buried. Plus the people buying this are likely to be already NAM users - namely technically savvy enough to easily work with this.
 
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