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Bonex One vs Nana Cotex vs Why Bother?
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Bit of a necro thread, but since your next gig is this summer 
My take aways from your situation:
- you use different amps / make it louder boxes
- you need/want both a DI to foh as well as a feed to a cab.
Above is 1 on 1 with mine, so ive given it some thought
to me, having to add a DI/cabsim after the amp, would be something id try to prevent. = extra device/complexity.
I’d prefer a digital device that can split the signal into a feed to foh, and a feed to the amp.
In your usecase, pedals into fronts of amps…I think HX stomp can do that by splitting a path and include a path with an amp/IR? Wouldn’t that make the Two notes unnessecary?
Personally I don’t use fronts of amps. Reason: I prefer to have the preamp part on my board, so no matter what i use to make things louder, the preamp is consistent. So i stick my board into returns of amps.
Your deluxe does not allow that, know that adding a poweramp input to a deluxe is a 100,- job for a tech.
Somewhere on my path i probably will end up with a deluxe also…and that would be the first thing I would have done to it. (Did it to a superchamp x2 and a AC15, x2 still in use)
I can take appropriate size amps, and always have the same sound as a base. Global eq helps to even things out.
Why I prefer captures:
- it allows me to compare 1 on 1 the digital version versus the analog, my restless mind needs that to confirm digital is delivering without compromise.
- It allows use of preamp captures instead of models of full amps, mitigates doubling up on the poweramp. (Does introducé the challenge of compensating that in the foh feed)
- no matter what (future) digital device I use, I can always transfer “my sounds” (cause i own the analog versions)
Together with my preference to split foh/feed to amp in one device, tonex and/or NC have never been on the option list. they simply don’t allow a cabsimmed/ non cabsimmed split. Kemper player does, QC does. Different pricepoints obviously, to me that option alone makes it worth it.
My take aways from your situation:
- you use different amps / make it louder boxes
- you need/want both a DI to foh as well as a feed to a cab.
Above is 1 on 1 with mine, so ive given it some thought
to me, having to add a DI/cabsim after the amp, would be something id try to prevent. = extra device/complexity.
I’d prefer a digital device that can split the signal into a feed to foh, and a feed to the amp.
In your usecase, pedals into fronts of amps…I think HX stomp can do that by splitting a path and include a path with an amp/IR? Wouldn’t that make the Two notes unnessecary?
Personally I don’t use fronts of amps. Reason: I prefer to have the preamp part on my board, so no matter what i use to make things louder, the preamp is consistent. So i stick my board into returns of amps.
Your deluxe does not allow that, know that adding a poweramp input to a deluxe is a 100,- job for a tech.
Somewhere on my path i probably will end up with a deluxe also…and that would be the first thing I would have done to it. (Did it to a superchamp x2 and a AC15, x2 still in use)
I can take appropriate size amps, and always have the same sound as a base. Global eq helps to even things out.
Why I prefer captures:
- it allows me to compare 1 on 1 the digital version versus the analog, my restless mind needs that to confirm digital is delivering without compromise.
- It allows use of preamp captures instead of models of full amps, mitigates doubling up on the poweramp. (Does introducé the challenge of compensating that in the foh feed)
- no matter what (future) digital device I use, I can always transfer “my sounds” (cause i own the analog versions)
Together with my preference to split foh/feed to amp in one device, tonex and/or NC have never been on the option list. they simply don’t allow a cabsimmed/ non cabsimmed split. Kemper player does, QC does. Different pricepoints obviously, to me that option alone makes it worth it.
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Yes, a thread so necro that this band doesn't exist anymore!Bit of a necro thread, but since your next gig is this summer
My take aways from your situation:
- you use different amps / make it louder boxes
- you need/want both a DI to foh as well as a feed to a cab.
Above is 1 on 1 with mine, so ive given it some thought
to me, having to add a DI/cabsim after the amp, would be something id try to prevent. = extra device/complexity.
I’d prefer a digital device that can split the signal into a feed to foh, and a feed to the amp.
In your usecase, pedals into fronts of amps…I think HX stomp can do that by splitting a path and include a path with an amp/IR? Wouldn’t that make the Two notes unnessecary?
Personally I don’t use fronts of amps. Reason: I prefer to have the preamp part on my board, so no matter what i use to make things louder, the preamp is consistent. So i stick my board into returns of amps.
Your deluxe does not allow that, know that adding a poweramp input to a deluxe is a 100,- job for a tech.
Somewhere on my path i probably will end up with a deluxe also…and that would be the first thing I would have done to it. (Did it to a superchamp x2 and a AC15, x2 still in use)
I can take appropriate size amps, and always have the same sound as a base. Global eq helps to even things out.
Why I prefer captures:
- it allows me to compare 1 on 1 the digital version versus the analog, my restless mind needs that to confirm digital is delivering without compromise.
- It allows use of preamp captures instead of models of full amps, mitigates doubling up on the poweramp. (Does introducé the challenge of compensating that in the foh feed)
- no matter what (future) digital device I use, I can always transfer “my sounds” (cause i own the analog versions)
Together with my preference to split foh/feed to amp in one device, tonex and/or NC have never been on the option list. they simply don’t allow a cabsimmed/ non cabsimmed split. Kemper player does, QC does. Different pricepoints obviously, to me that option alone makes it worth it.
But to your points:
This addition was simply for IEMs and personal monitoring.
Stomp was maxed out and couldn't supply the added amp/cab sims.
I hated that DRRI.
DI/IR loader isn't exactly complex in the grand scheme of things as they were. I was already doing multiple signal splits and IEMs.
Investing in a whole 'nother brand/workflow/ecosystem would cost a lot more time and money whereas a simple IR loader would have been cheap and relatively easy.
Either way, band is no more, gig isn't happening, and I have an Axe FX III that if I were to use in that band, would have taken care of all of the above
