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I think guitars and cymbals sound way worse when you EQ them to death. When people get surgical with this stuff, they almost always cut the bollocks off and turn the music into anthems for eunuchs.
No bueno.
Anyone else preferring “produced” sounds?
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No bueno.
Jarick
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Yes, I'm big time into more midrange with smoother high end.
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Anyone who claims one particular multieffect sounds more "accurate" than Helix. (And to a lesser extent, another, but it's faaaaar less egregious.)
ejecta
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It depends on the situation for me in what I’m looking for but hate to hear you can’t play like you used to. Man that sucks.
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I rarely hear an accurate guitar sound on any commercial recording. Just sayin.
I am not sure why, but I don't get along with Helix amps. I have friends that make them sound gloriouis,
but I am not one of them.
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It depends. When actually playing I generally prefer something less produced sounding. It tends to be a bit drier so the articulation is there and you can feel it quicker. A little reverb, maybe even a slight delay doesn't hurt though. That's how I treat recording guitar parts anyways. I can always post process and add a bit more space or modulation effects. I'm not playing live these days, but I would keep it fairly simple too. The less complexity the better. Just a good base tone with the usual pedal suspects.
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Clean Tube Amps Are Becoming Trendy Again: Is This the Reason for the Rise in Popularity of This New Gear?
An obsession with guitar pedals and clean tones may have led to the rise of the digital amp.
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They have not made a pedal that goes into a clean amp that sounds like my gainy amps yet.Clean Tube Amps Are Becoming Trendy Again: Is This the Reason for the Rise in Popularity of This New Gear?
An obsession with guitar pedals and clean tones may have led to the rise of the digital amp.www.ultimate-guitar.com
Piing
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I've always hated to play with raw fuzzy sounds, both live or recording. And that is the reason why I don't like more than 90% of the distortion, high gain or lead presets from others, both free or paid.
Steve Rothery is, quite often, a reference of the lead tones that I like. Gilmour sometimes, without the fuzz.
Steve Rothery is, quite often, a reference of the lead tones that I like. Gilmour sometimes, without the fuzz.
Mikael Dez
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I like my tones RAWW!! and WRIGGLING
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EOengineer
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I like raw produced sounds. In other words I want something coming from the amp, cab, and mic that fits into the mix without corrective EQ and a bunch of multiband blah blah blah.
Getting it right at the source helps the tones cut through while still sounding raw and natural.
Getting it right at the source helps the tones cut through while still sounding raw and natural.
Those 3 amps cover a tremendous amount of tonal ground.
Generally I’d agree with you, but the large Bogner Blue pedal shocked me through my Deluxe Reverb. IMO it could fool many people into thinking there’s a high gain channel on that amp. I have t found another pedal that does it better.
the swede
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I prefer something like… in the middle, recorded sound vs realism/feel
For starters, I use a modeler type of thing. A walrus ACS1. I treat it and view it as if it was my one amp. My preference is then to hear/record whatever comes out of it with nothing added after it. So in theory, it’s a mic capturing an amp and cab. All effects (pedals) straight up in front. I feel like that sound is “authentic” to my preferences and what I hear from the music that inspires me.
It’s only now after 20 years I realized how my favourite music was and still is made. I never got those results trying typical “in the box at home studio” approaches or getting tricked into high end modelers being the end game solutions.
Note: my goals are certainly achievable with a modelers if approached like I do things now. But it isn’t…. Fun.
Many times I want the mechanical discrepancies (?) of a pedal switching in to be a part of the composition, the downsides… hums, buzz, noise, clicks and clanks…
I have even gone as far as thinking the ACS1 sounds to clean… my telecaster adds some noises, but the amp/cab model is already to studio like.
I guess the only real way is a real amp captured by a mic to have those real hiss and occasionally added acoustic bleed into the mic from my guitar…
But I can’t go that far practically or economically.
So it’s a happy medium I think… between having shitty gritty sounds recorded and the positives of modeling.
For starters, I use a modeler type of thing. A walrus ACS1. I treat it and view it as if it was my one amp. My preference is then to hear/record whatever comes out of it with nothing added after it. So in theory, it’s a mic capturing an amp and cab. All effects (pedals) straight up in front. I feel like that sound is “authentic” to my preferences and what I hear from the music that inspires me.
It’s only now after 20 years I realized how my favourite music was and still is made. I never got those results trying typical “in the box at home studio” approaches or getting tricked into high end modelers being the end game solutions.
Note: my goals are certainly achievable with a modelers if approached like I do things now. But it isn’t…. Fun.
Many times I want the mechanical discrepancies (?) of a pedal switching in to be a part of the composition, the downsides… hums, buzz, noise, clicks and clanks…
I have even gone as far as thinking the ACS1 sounds to clean… my telecaster adds some noises, but the amp/cab model is already to studio like.
I guess the only real way is a real amp captured by a mic to have those real hiss and occasionally added acoustic bleed into the mic from my guitar…
But I can’t go that far practically or economically.
So it’s a happy medium I think… between having shitty gritty sounds recorded and the positives of modeling.
EOengineer
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Every so often I take a trip down memory lane listening to a bunch of stuff that I loved as a teenager in the 90s just starting to learn guitar. Nirvana, Hum, Smashing Pumpkins, Bush, Weezer, Soundgarden. I’ve accepted that all that stuff has imprinted upon me all kinds of ideas about how guitars should be presented in a recording.
All that hum, noise, feedback adds to an amazing performance and reminds us that a human still conceived of and expressed this art. Sounds don’t need to be perfect. I’ll take an inspired performance 10/10 over a perfect one.
Bonus points if there’s an explosion of fuzz noise before the drummer even counts the song off.
