Lets talk about Mesa 2x12s (and more)

[Life Eats Life]

More?
Always.

 

[Life Eats Life]

I don't have much of anything great to add. I've owned 3 different 2x12s and went back to 4x12.

If I were to try one mentioned it would be the vertical diagonal just because it seems cool. Never tried any of those.

One thing I can say to add and why i would absolutely choose a vert 2x12 is because stacking a regular 2x12 on top of a 4x12 or on a stand is nothing less than piercing from my experience and there was zero resonance. Put it on the floor and it is amazing.

“The sound of maggot movement”
Is one nifty way to describe the artifacts that cascade over following your ears being pierced by speaker cones at ear levels.
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[Deadpan]

I have/had many Mesa cabs. Horizontal 2x12 is awesome. Verticle 2x12 is ok but not the same.

Have a straight 1x12 and had a slant 1x12. A bit boxy and just ok. Better than open back.

Oversized is bassy and the standard is balanced.

Overall, I prefer the Horizontal 2x12. It's not easy to move though.

 

[Life Eats Life]

More?
Always!


Zilla 4X12 with Heritage 20watter Greenbscks wired to 16ohm.

This is midrange the sonic size of the Manhattan skyline in the afternoon.
I just played this for over an hour straight.
I had a BLAST!
Good shit!
Too blessed to be stressed, ya hear?
- I gotta remember that!!
This is such a rad rig.


I truely feel fortunate to own it.
I used to have herds & herds of gear..
- it’s impossible to enjoy all of it &
use it to it’s potentials-who has all that time??

 

[Badonkey Kong]

This is the way... All 73 lbs. of it!

 

[paisleywookiee]

2x12 vert vs. 2x12 horizontal: to me, it's kinda what you'd expect from a smaller cabinet. It's less bassy, which IMO is good. More focused, more directional because it doesn't have the slant dispersion. That's my "I played both for an hour, with the same head" evaluation.

 

[spawnofthesith]

2x12 vert vs. 2x12 horizontal: to me, it's kinda what you'd expect from a smaller cabinet. It's less bassy, which IMO is good. More focused, more directional because it doesn't have the slant dispersion. That's my "I played both for an hour, with the same head" evaluation.

I'm back on my bulisht browsing cabinets again... is the vertical smaller? Have you tried a vertical vs. diagonal at all?

 

[paisleywookiee]

I'm back on my bulisht browsing cabinets again... is the vertical smaller? Have you tried a vertical vs. diagonal at all?

The vertical is bigger than all other 2x12’s, I believe. Diagonal sounds very good, but a little less bass response. Not at all boxy, however.
Tbh, unless your head doesn’t fit on a vert or diagonal, I’m not sure why anyone would buy a horizontal. Stacking them; I guess.

 

[bikescene]

I'm GASing for a Mesa Horizontal 2x12 or Oversized 4x12 at this time. I recently put my V30 in my Jet City Vertical 2x12 and finally enjoyed listening to the speaker.

However, I am thinking I will go for the best and not second guess what could be achieved tonewise. Those new prices though.

 

[dk_ace]

My $.02…. You need to compare two specific 1x12s to one specific 2x12 all using the same speakers. There are quite a few variables involved in cabinets that change the sound considerably, so much so that generalities are not going to be very reliable or helpful.

That said, I’ll give you some generalizations anyway…. I’m more likely to like the sound and feel of a cab onstage the bigger it is. The smaller it is, the less likely I’ll dig it. There are exceptions to both though which is why you need to try it and compare things directly. Smaller boxes usually sound smaller IME, YMMV.

Also need to consider what you’re using it for and what matters most to you. If it’s mainly for sound/feel and I don’t care about logistics, I’m going with a big cab. If I’ve got to carry stuff around much and ease of use is the thing that matters most, I want the smallest, lightest thing I can get away with. My preferences for larger cabs go out the window if I’ve got to carry much stuff around or I have limited help.

Is this just for stage monitoring and feel, with FOH taking care of virtually everything the audience will hear? If so, you can get away with a lot. If you actually need the audience to hear your cabs, that changes things a lot with regard to cab choices. My oversized Mesa 412 was glorious if you were standing in its path, get 1* out of its path though and you weren’t gonna hear the guitar at all. If I need it to be widely dispersed I’d be looking for multiple smaller cabs and maybe even open or semi open backed ones. I don’t see many gigs like that anymore, but if you have one it is something to be aware of.

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[spawnofthesith]

Soooo…. Miraculously found a buyer for my empty combo shell so no wood shop project happening there


There’s a 1x12 thiele with EVM about an 1.5hr away from me in ft Collins


I happen to have a show in ft Collins next week

Thinking of trying to make this happen

Want to see about moving my Madison 2x12. Probably just list for market value of the T75s in there. It’s a great cab, but a. It’s Madison (ew) b. It’s carpet covered (also ew and dumb and now on top of carpet covered covered in my quad cat/dog scenarios hair)

Almost debating trusting the universe to not even bring a cab with me to the show. Sounds like a potential disaster though

 

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[CorrosiveMatter]

Soooo…. Miraculously found a buyer for my empty combo shell so no wood shop project happening there


There’s a 1x12 thiele with EVM about an 1.5hr away from me in ft Collins


I happen to have a show in ft Collins next week

Thinking of trying to make this happen

Want to see about moving my Madison 2x12. Probably just list for market value of the T75s in there. It’s a great cab, but a. It’s Madison (ew) b. It’s carpet covered (also ew and dumb and now on top of carpet covered covered in my quad cat/dog scenarios hair)

Almost debating trusting the universe to not even bring a cab with me to the show. Sounds like a potential disaster though

Just come south and get a 4x12, good deal for sure.

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[Blix]

Soooo…. Miraculously found a buyer for my empty combo shell so no wood shop project happening there


There’s a 1x12 thiele with EVM about an 1.5hr away from me in ft Collins


I happen to have a show in ft Collins next week

Thinking of trying to make this happen

Want to see about moving my Madison 2x12. Probably just list for market value of the T75s in there. It’s a great cab, but a. It’s Madison (ew) b. It’s carpet covered (also ew and dumb and now on top of carpet covered covered in my quad cat/dog scenarios hair)

Almost debating trusting the universe to not even bring a cab with me to the show. Sounds like a potential disaster though

I had a thiele with an EVM for a good while, and tbh I didn't like it much, it sounds like what it is, a small cabinet. Before I got it I read nonsense on TOP that it "could hang with a 4x12", but boy it couldn't... The EVH 2x12" I had a the time straight out murdered it...

 

[0XI0]

a mesa 3/4 back 2x12 with black shadows wired stereo with a 2:90, can kill everybody. drummer, bassist, crowd.

a recto 2x12 you can't even fucking hear unless you set it up on top of a stage case at head level

 

[Eagle]

My all time favourite mesa cabs are the EV Thelie and the horizontal 2x12. I sometimes put that vertical and it’s good like that too.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I have gotten to where 112s are really just the shit. Tight af and super focused sounding. Love them.

412s are AWESOME if I can crank them up for that gut punch. Or if you Play quiet, but get that sizzle from the speakers but still just below the threshold where the beef of the cabinet really starts to overtake things.

212s to me are the worst of both worlds. Too heavy and still expensive when new if they are good without the tightness I like from the 112 nor the hugeness a killer 412 will put out.

I like 2x12s for mixing two complementary speakers.

 

[Iron1]

Traded my Badlander for a Mesa OS 412 straight/slant, a Recto 212 and some cash. The 412 is what glory sounds like. The 212 is right behind it.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Just come south and get a 4x12, good deal for sure.

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There’s a Mesa 4x12 for even less closer to me but at this time 4x12 days are behind me lol

I do miss my 4x12 trad sometimes though, that thing was awesome

I had a thiele with an EVM for a good while, and tbh I didn't like it much, it sounds like what it is, a small cabinet. Before I got it I read nonsense on TOP that it "could hang with a 4x12", but boy it couldn't... The EVH 2x12" I had a the time straight out murdered it...

I have heard some people say they don’t dig the thiele. Considering how much I like my widebody 1x12 with a c90 I feel like the thiele should probably be up my alley.

Personally I find myself enjoying that Mesa widebody 1x12 cab a bit more than my EVH 2x12, but both are awesome cabs

 

[la szum]

Having a diverse array of cabs and speakers seems wise in my book. I think the
issue some of us run into is when we expect different cab configurations to sound
the same, or similar. Embrace the laser-bean boxiness of a good 1 x 12 and the
boom and depth of a 4 x 12, and the happy medium of a decent 2 x 12. They all
have their place for getting different results for different things. Playing with Brass
and Horns? Give me that 1 x 12 to cut and slice through. Chugfest? Grab me that
4 x 12 or 2x 12 and feel the snare head on the drums start to rattle and hum.