Adventures in Fractal's Dual Rectifiers

[dean701]

It might be a cool video topic for @2112 to make a video covering some of the tweaks discussed in this thread.

Then he can lead into the Revv amps and note they are better than the Recto in every possible way.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Then he can lead into the Revv amps and note they are better than the Recto in every possible way.

Yes if you're into boring amps that suck.

 

[SwirlyMaple]

Why did so many Cats go into the studio with multiple variations of the same Amp Model to
try and find "the one?" And then add in different Cabs, how we are micing them, and with what
Mics?

It's all really a lot of variables, and kind of makes exactness and precision a flawed outlook from
the jump. Mostly.

I think there's two facets to that:

Accurate models of individual elements and their interactions, which create accurate distortion texture, etc. are still very important. Without that, the amp models don't sound like any amp, and this is where Fractal excels IMO.

The arguably less-important part is the exact value of those individual elements, which (as we've seen here) can vary even within the same model of amp.

But, the fact that tweaking a few of those values got the Axe-FX to sound darn near indistinguishable from MP's real amp shows how accurate the underlying algorithms are in the Axe-Fx. Without listening to them first and knowing which was which, I'd never be able to tell you which one was the real amp in those last samples he posted.

 

[dean701]

Yes if you're into boring amps that suck.

I'll just assume that you're tired and not thinking clearly.

 

[Orvillain]

Then he can lead into the Revv amps and note they are better than the Recto in every possible way.

I do truly love those Revv amps on both Helix and Axe FX.

 

[Mongillo19]

I'll just assume that you're tired and not thinking clearly.

HE SAID WHAT HE SAID

 

[dean701]

HE SAID WHAT HE SAID

I'm just stirring the pot. Everyone has their go to favorites.

 

[northern_fox]

I just tweaked my own FM3 and A/Bing it with your NAM capture, and I'll tell you - I'm extremely hardpressed to hear a difference. I left the advanced params untouched except for the master cap and very slight sub cut on the GEQ. Not my playing - IK sample

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I just tweaked my own FM3 and A/Bing it with your NAM capture, and I'll tell you - I'm extremely hardpressed to hear a difference. I left the advanced params untouched except for the master cap and very slight sub cut on the GEQ. Not my playing - IK sample

sounds close to me! What MV and MV bright cap settings did you land on?

 

[Deadpan]

This thread had me thinking about the Axe Rectos.

Fired it up a few days ago and was having a similar experience to the OP.

Today I gave it another shot and have to say adjusting the SIC parameters and speaker compression really opened it up for my preference.

Rectos are one of the worst at being inconsistent. I have/had many and they were all different to varying degrees. Even the two Tremoverb combos I had were like two completely different amps.

It could be as simple as someone installing random power tubes without considering bias.

 

[northern_fox]

sounds close to me! What MV and MV bright cap settings did you land on?

18 pF on the cap, and I did zero the extra speaker settings also

 

[deathbyguitar]

This thread had me thinking about the Axe Rectos.

Fired it up a few days ago and was having a similar experience to the OP.

Today I gave it another shot and have to say adjusting the SIC parameters and speaker compression really opened it up for my preference.

Rectos are one of the worst at being inconsistent. I have/had many and they were all different to varying degrees. Even the two Tremoverb combos I had were like two completely different amps.

It could be as simple as someone installing random power tubes without considering bias.

What kind of SIC adjustments did you make? I only ever use the Recto Large SIC with Recto 2 Red Moden.

 

[texhex]

I just tweaked my own FM3 and A/Bing it with your NAM capture, and I'll tell you - I'm extremely hardpressed to hear a difference. I left the advanced params untouched except for the master cap and very slight sub cut on the GEQ. Not my playing - IK sample

Not there’s a plugin I could really use!

 

[Mongillo19]

Not there’s a plugin I could really use!

Only if you label them correctly!

 

[2112]

It might be a cool video topic for @2112 to make a video covering some of the tweaks discussed in this thread.

Soon

 

[deathbyguitar]

Soon

Please include something about multi-watt version if possible. I might be one of eight people on earth who doesn't prefer the revision G versions.

 

[texhex]

Only if you label them correctly!

 

[northern_fox]

Only if you label them correctly!

Sometimes it's good when you confuse your own ears haha. But yeah. I also bind it to a key in reaper for seamless A/B testing with the window closed so I don't know which I'm on. Super useful in fact for unbiased comparison

 

[Mongillo19]

Sometimes it's good when you confuse your own ears haha. But yeah. I also bind it to a key in reaper for seamless A/B testing with the window closed so I don't know which I'm on. Super useful in fact for unbiased comparison

Oh for sure, I was just poking fun at Tex also, glad to see you back @northern_fox! I was hoping everything was okay

 

[northern_fox]

Oh for sure, I was just poking fun at Tex also, glad to see you back @northern_fox! I was hoping everything was okay

I've been dropping off socials a bit except where needed - too much toxicity and I needed a mental break along with some other IRL stuff. This place is pretty chill though, so I'll be around :)