ejecta
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Who knows but that’s a good guess. That said it wouldn’t surprise me if it was closer to 10-1 or even higher.
80% of digital modellers & c buyers are bedroom players according to marketing researches
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Elf
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Off topic but Suno is the best 10USD a month that I have spend in a long time, like all of us I have so many lyrics, riffs, half songs etc. I've been doing covers of those ideas and I've been able to finish tons of those songs, I'm having so much fun!
This is one of the first tests I did with a old riff I had:
ian_dissonance
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How much of that did you record?Off topic but Suno is the best 10USD a month that I have spend in a long time, like all of us I have so many lyrics, riffs, half songs etc. I've been doing covers of those ideas and I've been able to finish tons of those songs, I'm having so much fun!
This is one of the first tests I did with a old riff I had:
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Nothing, I uploaded a mp3 of me playing the intro riff and i did the AI prompt "metal, progressive metal, jazz, alternative, melodic, pop, alternative metal, electronic, r&b, Latin" and pasted the raw text from Wikipedia and Suno AI created everything else. I did what they call "Cover" of the mp3 i uploaded.
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Elf
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I know what you mean.
Another example, this is a very old demo I had and what Suno AI came up with, now I have to learn how to play that lead! :)
ian_dissonance
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Just write the music. What a waste of resources.
Sascha Franck
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I hate all those music generating AIs with a passion. And nothing's gonna stop that. It's by far the worst thing that happened to music throughout the last decades.
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At one point in time, it'll grab them anyway, should you publish them anywhere. There's no escape from this BS. Quite unfortunately.
ian_dissonance
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People are doing that and self-publishing. It’s insane. Having an idea for art is not that same thing and making art. Especially when you’re feeding that idea to something that leeches of actual human-made art.
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It is getting out of hand. I'm guilty of using ai thumbnail art when I post a song to soundcloud, but I think it's time to move on from all that and replace them.
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Fwiw, I think it's sort fine to use AI with "decency". This includes some things, such as being honest to yourself (which requires a bit of selfawareness in the first place), such as being honest to whomever you present your AI-aquired "things" (regardless whether it's art, knowledge or whatever), such as not going all in just because you can, etc.
In case of Suno, if it gives you ideas, that's fine in my book. If it helps you with one or the other part (which is now easily possible as Suno Studio has just been released), that's sort of fine, too. But IMO that's almost where it ends already, in case you want to save a bit of "musical dignity".
Personally, I'm sometimes using Chat GPT, Perplexity or Gemini instead of Google, simply because it's often more exact. For instance, I needed to patch my SUP and was looking for the right glue. Google had no proper answers (at least nothing that could be found quickly) but Chat GPT had, simply because it would do a combined search based on various informations (size of damage, brand of SUP).
So that's just fine because CGPT was actually *helping* me to get something done myself.
If I however would ask it to create some song lyrics for me (something lots of folks are doing by now already), that'd not exactly help me in becoming a better songwriter. Asking for, say, a clever rhyme however is fine in my book - as it's helping and possibly even inspiring.
And yes, there's a fine line between using and abusing things. Or lots of fine lines.
In case of Suno, if it gives you ideas, that's fine in my book. If it helps you with one or the other part (which is now easily possible as Suno Studio has just been released), that's sort of fine, too. But IMO that's almost where it ends already, in case you want to save a bit of "musical dignity".
Personally, I'm sometimes using Chat GPT, Perplexity or Gemini instead of Google, simply because it's often more exact. For instance, I needed to patch my SUP and was looking for the right glue. Google had no proper answers (at least nothing that could be found quickly) but Chat GPT had, simply because it would do a combined search based on various informations (size of damage, brand of SUP).
So that's just fine because CGPT was actually *helping* me to get something done myself.
If I however would ask it to create some song lyrics for me (something lots of folks are doing by now already), that'd not exactly help me in becoming a better songwriter. Asking for, say, a clever rhyme however is fine in my book - as it's helping and possibly even inspiring.
And yes, there's a fine line between using and abusing things. Or lots of fine lines.
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Right, Over the years I have some songwriting credits in commercially distributed records and I wonder if some of those songs were use to train these models? That I’m now using.
I’m an old fart with no desire to travel and perform again in public, it is a different situation for me to upload files that have been on my hard drive forever. But I understand the validity of questioning the morality and disruptive nature of AI in the arts.
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HotRats
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Beware that AI often gives wrong but well written answers.
It happens all the time.
luckymethod
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no shit. how many people do you see playing out? do you think all those companies could survive with just the pros? no chance.
hobby players keep this market alive.
Sascha Franck
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I'm absolutely aware of AI hallucinations. So yes, I crosscheck everything.