Zoom MS-80IR - Krampus ministomp!

[Alex Kenivel]

Multi-Layer

 

[timbuck3]

I use the cdr70 and will get the crd70+ as I think they are useful

 

[timbuck3]

 

[KingsXJJ]

I’m down. Preordered @ SW.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Just bought shit!

 

[Alathea_Squared]

Sorry, I suppose I am guilty of something I normally dislike.....many pardins kind sir.

I will research this more now .. because I am looking for a smaller solution, which is midi capable, and I only need a couple anp models. Not too many effects usually...but 2 of these and call me in the morning.

Once again, I apologize for being lazy.

It actually has fewer native effects in it than the original ms70cdr, and that’s not accounting for adding effects to it after you hack it.

 

[GuitarBilly74]

I'd consider the 70 if it had MIDI jacks. Making this type of gear without MIDI doesn't make any sense these days.

 

[DieSchmalle]

I'd consider it if it could run Super Mario Land.

 

[ucnick]

I have an MS50G on my little "blues" board I use for modulation and song-specific presets, don't use the amps much.

My chief issue with the MS80 and similar products is those supposedly foot-tappable switches. No way with my clodhoppers. Only way would be to use the MIDI I/F.

 

[Shredder777]

This is $129 at Sw. Killer deal imo.

Would this midi/usb c cable allow an fx unit with 7 pin midi out to switch the zoom pedal (that has usb-c midi?)

https://tinyurl.com/2kdvcv4u

 

[Shredder777]

Need this:

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802637245554.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.15.59326423TyLGhQ&algo_pvid=8c980416-02b2-4698-bb15-19a101ad0437&algo_exp_id=8c980416-02b2-4698-bb15-19a101ad0437-7&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2145.00%2135.55%21%21%2145.00%2135.55%21%402103201917325913222463837e1c7a%2112000022352277716%21sea%21US%214286059992%21X&curPageLogUid=tjwq1g3CZqiB&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

 

[Shredder777]

Here is an apple-apples comparison video from Choptones. Zoom ms80ir+ vs full Helix. Zoom sounds better imo.

Zoom:


Helix:

 

[KingsXJJ]

I'd consider the 70 if it had MIDI jacks. Making this type of gear without MIDI doesn't make any sense these days.

Then spend more and get it.

 

[GuitarBilly74]

Then spend more and get it.

Spend more and get what? Pedals with MIDI? I have several.

I just think it's a missed opportunity for Zoom not to add that feature, that's all.

 

[Shredder777]

Spend more and get what? Pedals with MIDI? I have several.

I just think it's a missed opportunity for Zoom not to add that feature, that's all.

It has midi, just not the big 5-pin. You need to buy that $40 usb midi hub to translate from usb-c to 5-pin midi.

It sucks, but alot of new gear is going that direction (GX10, others) so it may become the new way of doing things.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Does it even have a proper MIDI implementation and is there a MIDI implementation chart somewhere?

 

[Shredder777]

Does it even have a proper MIDI implementation and is there a MIDI implementation chart somewhere?

It does. Check page 77 of the manual. It appears to change patch based on PC 0-80.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I don't expect a $100 pedal to have midi. Or a bottom rung modeler, fwtw. Grabbing some 3rd party adapter and stabbing around in the dark for midi implementation on a device not officially supporting it seems like a waste of time. Unless you are doing it for "fun".

I do think the Zoom sounds better between the two clips up top though

 

[GuitarBilly74]

It has midi, just not the big 5-pin. You need to buy that $40 usb midi hub to translate from usb-c to 5-pin midi.

It sucks, but alot of new gear is going that direction (GX10, others) so it may become the new way of doing things.

Oh that's interesting. Good to know.

 

[GuitarBilly74]

I don't expect a $100 pedal to have midi. Or a bottom rung modeler, fwtw. Grabbing some 3rd party adapter and stabbing around in the dark for midi implementation on a device not officially supporting it seems like a waste of time. Unless you are doing it for "fun".

I do think the Zoom sounds better between the two clips up top though

MIDI is 40 years old tech, very easy and cheap to add these days to any digital device. I can see adding the 5-pin jacks being difficult on a small footprint but the 1/8" jacks would be fine.