You just can’t trust online information

[Ed DeGenaro]

And yes we get that you wanna relate everything to the parent major irregardless of tonal center ala Nashville Numbers.
However this thread started you moping about keys.
NNS is for easily transposed shit on the fly. And to fit 16 tunes on a cocktail napkin but but guess what folks write tunes that aren’t in major keys.

 

[HomespunEffects]

I’d bet money even in your shorthand he’d play the shit out of it resolving to the right home sound.
Or even without cause guess what making it through a diatonic progression is akin to juggling one ball.

QED

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

QED

Knowing him he will

 

[Sascha Franck]

So, could you answer what the tonal center of the verse of Sledgehammer is?

 

[HomespunEffects]

So, could you answer what the tonal center of the verse of Sledgehammer is?

Bachman-Turner Overdrive or Peter Gabriel (ugh, I always hated that video)?

If you answered my question it would show that I’m correct. The progression could easily be communicated and that’s the whole point.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Bachman-Turner Overdrive or Peter Gabriel (ugh, I always hated that video)?

Gabriel. I even posted the video.

If you answered my question it would show that I’m correct.

No. I might record your progression later on. Just that it's using notes from F major doesn't mean it actually is F major.

The progression could easily be communicated and that’s the whole point.

No. The tonal center is of vital importance. And you disproved your point already by analyzing the A7 in a blues in A as I7.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Besides, the progression you've posted:

F major, play a 6- 3- 2- 4/5

Would be Dmin, Amin, Gmin, Bb/C.
I can't see how this has anything to do with "We Are Family" as the tonal center very clearly is Dmin.

 

[HomespunEffects]

And yes we get that you wanna relate everything to the parent major irregardless of tonal center ala Nashville Numbers.
However this thread started you moping about keys.

I never said anything about keys until you did.

NNS is for easily transposed shit on the fly. And to fit 16 tunes on a cocktail napkin but but guess what folks write tunes that aren’t in major keys.

It’s for efficient communication of chord progressions. I never asked you to adopt it.

 

[HomespunEffects]

Dmin, Amin, Gmin, Bb/C.

My chords were correctly communicated from me to you. We did that together. I’m happy now. You may participate again.

I can't see how this has anything to do with "We Are Family" as the tonal center very clearly is Dmin.

“But i had breakfast this morning.”

 

[HomespunEffects]

Gabriel. I even posted the video.

No video shown. Could you pick anything else. I can’t make it through that song.

No. I might record your progression later on. Just that it's using notes from F major doesn't mean it actually is F major.

That’s irrelevant information.

No. The tonal center is of vital importance.

Or maybe it isn’t.

And you disproved your point already by analyzing the A7 in a blues in A as I7.

False. Blues in A, 1⁷ communicates A⁷.

 

[Sascha Franck]

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Tuesday at 1:46 PM

Ok, @HomespunEffects, listen to the verse:


What's the tonal center (aka tonic) here? Anything else but Eb?

• Sascha Franck

That’s irrelevant information.

No, the tonal center is possibly the single most relevant information in anything dealing with tonal centers.

False. Blues in A, 1⁷ communicates A⁷.

Of course. And you still fail to sufficiently explain why the A chord in "WAF" wouldn't be a I chord.
And hey, what about the tonal center of Sledgehammer? Is it anything else but Eb?

 

[HomespunEffects]

No, the tonal center is possibly the single most relevant information in anything dealing with tonal centers.

When listening? Ok. When communicating a chord progression? Nah

Of course. And you still fail to sufficiently explain why the A chord in "WAF" wouldn't be a I chord.

Because in D, A is a 5. In A, A is a 1. I can call A the 5 in blues if you want, the result is exactly the same.

I will not be listening to that horrid song and I especially will not be viewing that video. Pick something else, anything else. I beg you.

 

[Sascha Franck]

When listening? Ok. When communicating a chord progression? Nah

Defenitely both.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

When listening? Ok. When communicating a chord progression? Nah


Because in D, A is a 5. In A, A is a 1. I can call A the 5 in blues if you want, the result is exactly the same.

Then how is A Em7 D9 related to D rather than A

 

[Sascha Franck]

Because in D, A is a 5. In A, A is a 1. I can call A the 5 in blues if you want, the result is exactly the same.

It's not. 5 doesn't imply a tonal center.

 

[HomespunEffects]

Then how is A Em7 D9 related to D rather than A

Easy, that's a 5 2-⁷ 1⁹

 

[HomespunEffects]

It's not. 5 doesn't imply a tonal center.

Doesn't matter. The chords come out the same.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Easy, that's a 5 2-⁷ 1⁹

How is D7 a tonic? 4 beats A 2 beats Em 2 beats D7 convince me it’s D major in the most remote sense.
And hiw is D7 IV in Blues in A but I here

 

[HomespunEffects]

How is D7 a tonic?

Where did I say it was a tonic?

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

How is D7 a tonic? 4 beats A 2 beats Em 2 beats D7 convince me it’s D major in the most remote sense.

Where did I say it was a tonic?

That’s what a I chord is plus you keep insisting it’s in D