Very original thread: What is your favorite Klon?

[Chocol8]

Toan is in the goop.

That is what is so great about the JHS DIY kits. They are the only DIY kits I know of that include authentic tone goop as part of a the base price.

 

[la szum]

The regular tumnus uses schottky diodes which have a forward voltage drop around the same level as the germanium diodes in the Klon. I've switched schottkys out with germanium in some of my own Klones and as long as the schottkys and germaniums measure roughly the same I can't honestly tell much of a difference.

The big deal with the germanium tumnus was Brian claimed he'd found exactly the same diodes as used in the original klons. It's possible but there a lot of germanium diodes that look just like this so

Original batch
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The later batches are definitely using different germaniums. They look like the generic Chinese 1n34a you can still buy from tayda.

Later batch
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It doesn't really matter as long as they all measure in the right range. It's mostly just bragging rights and higher resale values.

There are some cool-ass Klones out there with toggle-switchable diodes like the
Mythical Effects Rimrock. I don't do the Klone thing anymore, but I recall it having
a 3 position toggle and some NOS Telefunken Germs in one of the positions.

Like this.

Klons can work great as end of thew chain tone sweetners, too. Gain Low, Tone and
Volume to taste. Go!

 

[Sascha Franck]

I would defenitely check out the NUX Horseman. Sorry, no first hand experience with it, but to my ears it sounds really nice in comparison videos. The main advance being that it combines both the golden and silver Centaurs (longpress to switch, IIRC). On my rather shortterm shopping list.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

The main advance being that it combines both the golden and silver Centaurs (longpress to switch, IIRC). On my rather shortterm shopping list.

There's a couple of mods they might be doing with the toggle switch but there is no difference between gold and silver klons apart from the colour of the enclosure. Any sound differences between different klons is down to component tolerances.

 

[Sascha Franck]

There's a couple of mods they might be doing with the toggle switch but there is no difference between gold and silver klons apart from the colour of the enclosure.

Don't the silver models offer a bit more gain? That's what many people say (but I would actually rather believe you).

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Don't the silver models offer a bit more gain? That's what many people say (but I would actually rather believe you).

No the circuit is identical between the gold and silver klons. The only circuit revisions happened in the first 300 units or so and they were mainly around stopping the unit popping when engaged and slightly more mids.

There was a project released by Keith at BYOC called the Silver Pony and it had some mods to the circuit, one of those upped the gain slightly. The RYRA clone is based on that project. He originally claimed to have degoooed a Klon and found some circuit differences but never backed it up with any evidence. That might be the origin of the Silver klons being different thing. It was a silver klon he degooped but the original Klon tracing was also a silver Klon S698.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Once I get an idea in my head I tend to become very impatient

Did a marketplace scan and picked this up for about $30 less than the cheapest reverb listing would be after tax/shipping

Digging the sounds a lot. Sounds great anywhere on the gain knob. Higher up is a very pleasing and natural sounding crunch tone and a nice tone sweetener lower down . Good stuff

 

[HomespunEffects]

This is my favorite.

 

[Eagle]

This is my favorite.
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Love the graphic.

 

[Sascha Franck]

No the circuit is identical between the gold and silver klons. The only circuit revisions happened in the first 300 units or so and they were mainly around stopping the unit popping when engaged and slightly more mids.

There was a project released by Keith at BYOC called the Silver Pony and it had some mods to the circuit, one of those upped the gain slightly. The RYRA clone is based on that project. He originally claimed to have degoooed a Klon and found some circuit differences but never backed it up with any evidence. That might be the origin of the Silver klons being different thing. It was a silver klon he degoooed but the original Klon tracing was also a silver Klon S698.

Thanks, good to know (even if I will forget it anyway... well, hopefully not).
However, I still think it's not a bad idea to have two somewhat different variations in a compact pedal such as the Horseman.

 

[Richard_G]

Have any of you guys compared a Centura to a Horse Breaker? @Eagle ?

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Have any of you guys compared a Centura to a Horse Breaker? @Eagle ?

I had a decibelics Golden Horse for a while and it was great. Really well made and sounded as good as any other Klone I've tried. I haven't played a centura though.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

However, I still think it's not a bad idea to have two somewhat different variations in a compact pedal such as the Horseman.

Absolutely agree.

 

[Eagle]

Have any of you guys compared a Centura to a Horse Breaker? @Eagle ?

No sorry.

 

[spawnofthesith]

After some more hours Very much enjoying the Ikon still. Only been running it into my mark IV so far, as I mentioned does a great amp sounding crunch thing with the gain up but mostly settling with gain off and level/treble at noon. Channel one of the mark definitely just kind of “MOAR” tone, I could see myself almost always leaving it on barring clean tapping stuff where it adds a bit of graininess for that type of sound

Also sounds killer with channel two giving some extra juice. As far as channel 3, well I don’t think mark lead channels should be boosted but it still sounds solid there


Tomorrow need to dive into running it into my deluxe reverb and f100 and also as a boost for brootz on my badlander

Plays nice getting boosted by my sd-1 but I’m getting a little disenchanted with that pedal. The thing it does is a very good sound but it’s kinda samey mid voice thing on any amp it’s applied to. I have an EQD dunes in route so looking forward to that both just as it’s own thing and stacking scenarios

I think a blues driver is probably in my imminent future then I’ll probably be good on dirt boxes for a while

 

[Zodiac]

I have hundreds of great pedals from lots of different makers and companies

Who buys hundreds of pedals?

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Who buys hundreds of pedals?

Probably lots of us but for most of us it's not at the same time. It's also not all the same pedal in many colours.

 

[Zodiac]

I have 14 pedals

 

[Dave Lewis]

Who buys hundreds of pedals?

Someone who is 70 in the next couple of months and has always liked playing with pedals and likes to have choice in a studio.

 

[Dave Lewis]

Probably lots of us but for most of us it's not at the same time. It's also not all the same pedal in many colours.

FFS you can’t just help yourself can you.
I don’t buy my pedals all at the same time and they are not all the same.