Valeton GP-5

[Byrdman]

For around $80, this looks like its going to pack quite a punch in the Modelling, Multi-EFX, & IR world.

 

[Sedaxel]

And yet another NAM player.

In no time, there´ll be only a few brands with no capturing offer.

 

[Alex Kenivel]

Marketing blurb:
As a multi-effects processor, the GP-5 boasts a maximum capacity of 9 effect modules, some of which can be moved sequentially. It offers over 100 organic effects based on HD digital modelling technology. As a Neural Amp Modelling (NAM)/Cabinet IR loader, the GP-5 supports storing up to 20 third-party cabinet IR files, and is equipped with latest NAM technology. The GP-5 comes with 50 meticulously selected cloning files and supports storing up to 80 NAM files. Thanks to its compact stomp design, you can easily Integrate the GP-5 onto your pedalboard. Whether used as a NAM/IR loader or harnessing its rich selection of built-in effects in combination with other pedals, the GP-5 smoothly blends into your setup.

Despite adopting the classic single-footswitch mini pedal specification, the GP-5 makes no compromises in terms of operational experience. Equipped with customizable footswitch, it enables versatile patch switching methods, or controlling the on/off of individual or multiple effects. Coupled with its colour LCD display, it perfectly adapts to various stage scenarios. Moreover, the GP-5 also built-in BT wireless function and comes with a mobile app for seamless wireless editing and management of your tones.

Specs:
Super compact multi-effects processor/Sound Clone & IR loader
Over 100 high-quality effects
Supports loading 3rd-party cabinet IRs, max 20 stored
Supports latest Neural Amp Modelling (NAM), with 50 curated files, max 80 stored
100 patch slots (50 factory patches)
Up to 9 modules able to work simultaneously, with the order of some modules being customizable
Sensitive built-in chromatic tuner
Color LCD screen presents an intuitive, user-friendly UI
Customizable LED footswitch compatible with 4 usage modes: Patch, Songlist, Stomp CTL, and Tuner (Bypass)
Two bypass modes available: analog bypass and digital bypass
Authentic stereo processing, 1/4″ TRS unbalanced stereo output jack, compatible with headphones
2-in/2-out USB Audio, supporting re-amp and compatible with Win/Mac/iOS/Android systems
Supports BT wireless audio playback and can record via the USB Audio
Supports connection to iOS/Android edit/manage app featuring 100 drum patterns
Intuitive Win/Mac software for file management & firmware updates
Compact and robust metal casing
DC 9V or USB 5V power supply
BT Wireless: 5.0 Dual-Mode (BLE & audio)
Analog Input Connection
Input: 1/4″ unbalanced (TS) Input Impedance: 1M Ohms
Analog Output Connection Output: 1/4″ unbalanced stereo (TRS), compatible with headphones
Output Impedance: 100 Ohms
USB Recording:
USB 2.0 Type-C Port
Sample Rate: 44.1 kHz
Depth: Supports 16-bit
Size and Weight
Dimensions: 93.5mm(W) x 42mm(D) x 52mm(H)
Unit Weight: 237g
Power
Power Requirements: DC 9V center negative or USB 5V
Current Consumption: 200mA (9V)

 

[Los-D]

Tonex None?

(I kid, I kid. Actually very curious about this…)

 

[laxu]

Afaik Valeton is like the cheaper brand from Hotone. This makes me curious if they might add NAM support to the Ampero range.

 

[Sedaxel]

Afaik Valeton is like the cheaper brand from Hotone. This makes me curious if they might add NAM support to the Ampero range.

Not only that: Sonicake is the cheapest brand of that group (Hotone-Valeton-Sonicake).

It´s curious that Hotone features native capturing while the others feature NAM player... Could that mean that Hotone capturing is just a "tweak" of some base NAM captures?

 

[Byrdman]

I would probably be interested in trying it out. NAM captures and load about 5 presets on it and have it as a great rig backup, just in case.

 

[laxu]

Not only that: Sonicake is the cheapest brand of that group (Hotone-Valeton-Sonicake).

It´s curious that Hotone features native capturing while the others feature NAM player... Could that mean that Hotone capturing is just a "tweak" of some base NAM captures?

I've been wondering the same. I'll see what happens if I rename a 100 epoch NAM file and try to upload it to the Ampero.

EDIT: No luck either way, renaming a .nam -> .tone -> Ampero 2, or .tone -> .nam -> NAM plugin. Not much I can figure out of the file contents either, other than they are certainly different but the .tone files are all binary.
.nam files are essentially just JSON files describing all the weights of the model and metadata.

 

[Mike Oliphant]

It´s curious that Hotone features native capturing while the others feature NAM player... Could that mean that Hotone capturing is just a "tweak" of some base NAM captures?

More likely, the Valeton/Sonicake NAM loading is a tweak of Ampero "Tone Catch" using NAM files to generate the capture data.

 

[SpaceForceCMDR]

They packed a lot of functionality into a tiny pedal.

 

[2dor]

Meh. Unless it can run standard NAM profiles, it's a pass in my book.

 

[MadMaxG79]

Meh. Unless it can run standard NAM profiles, it's a pass in my book.

So I haven't been following the NAM tech, but what different kinds of NAM profiles are there? Is standard "better"?

 

[Byrdman]

Meh. Unless it can run standard NAM profiles, it's a pass in my book.

What are the differences between standard and non-standard NAM profiles?

 

[KingsXJJ]

Gonna get one of these for sure. FOMO and FAFO mode activated.

 

[2dor]

What are the differences between standard and non-standard NAM profiles?

STANDARD as in native, not re-trained or adapted / cut-down, NAM profile. Most of these small players can't run the vanilla NAM profiles.

 

[Byrdman]

STANDARD as in native, not re-trained or adapted / cut-down, NAM profile. Most of these small players can't run the vanilla NAM profiles.

Thanks for the clarification. I did not know that, I'll read up on it.

Is there a way to tell if they do or not with out having to buy it and see? Maybe a spec or lack of spec to look out for?

 

[2dor]

Thanks for the clarification. I did not know that, I'll read up on it.

Is there a way to tell if they do or not with out having to buy it and see? Maybe a spec or lack of spec to look out for?

I guess only if the vendor clarifies this stuff otherwise it's buying, testing & returning.

 

[Byrdman]

I guess only if the vendor clarifies this stuff otherwise it's buying, testing & returning.

Or let the GAS fiends try it out at TOP first. Let them be the...

 

[Sascha Franck]

Said so in another thread, the rather little bits of audio sound pretty legit to me. But then, same story as with many of these tiny units: UI isn't for me (unless it allows for more or less full and easy MIDI control).

 

[Byrdman]

Said so in another thread, the rather little bits of audio sound pretty legit to me. But then, same story as with many of these tiny units: UI isn't for me (unless it allows for more or less full and easy MIDI control).

I dont think you are going to get MIDI control in any of these "Budget" units at this time. You and others needing more features, gigging, full NAM file captures, etc. are probably not the target market for this. IMO, this is directed to the person practicing at home and wants a cheap and easy way to try and sound like their favorite guitarist/band/amp.

Those that need the other features have plenty of options in the $500+ range.