Turns out I dig V30s

Eagle said:
I was only going on what Paul ( Marshall ) told me I haven’t looked into more than that.
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The Marshall is based off of the original V30 "recipe" (which is possibly one of the most varied speaker in existence today). Mesa demanded that they continue to make them in the UK and with certain things still in place. According to Randall on his channel, they had changed them and Mesa could, apparently, hear a difference in isolation. I bought 2 V30s from Mojotone recently (paired with two UK made G12H-30 Anniversary speakers) and they were made in the UK.

Now if they can just move the G12T-75 back to the UK...
 
sleewell said:
Got an Orange ppc 212 closed back yesterday. gc used came through, great price and it was decently packed.

It rips. I really like it. I have an orange 4x12 but it's a pre ppc one w t75s which I like but I think I like the v30 a little more or it's just honeymoon stage lol.


Still deciding if I like stacking them vertically or horizontally more. The wideness of horizontal is cool but getting speakers more ear level is nice too even though it seems way louder. Probably won't bring both to shows but I might bring the 212 when I know I'd be using someone else's 412. It's pretty easy to carry compared the 412.


So yea... orange makes really good cabs lol
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Congrats, those are a great cab. Hope you get lots of enjoyment with it. I got a Orange PPC-212V almost a year ago and play it almost every day. If you think the speakers sound good now, you're gonna be even happier in about a month once they break in. Mine gots the made in the UK Celestion "Creambacks" in it. It looks like the horizontal cab gots Celestion Vintage 30s and the Vertical cab gots Celestion Creambacks.

From the little bit of internet research I did, the current version of Celestion Vintage 30s are made in the UK and the pre-2024 ones was made in China. Oh well, it doesn't bother me, so I don't care!

BTW: The recent Celestion G12-Ms was also made in England.

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Sweet cab!! Not going to lie I love that it's semi open back. Fills the room up way more, less directional. I'd love to run that w a closed back too.


Orange cabs just have it, whatever it is. Oh to be matt pike for just one show lol
 
James Freeman said:
Here's a little piece of information that everyone who records Celestion speakers should know:
1. The biggest variation in frequency response between a smooth Celestion and a spiky one is the 5-6kHz region, right where the drop-off begins.
2. The SM57 boost the 5-6kHz region by 7dB.

If you get Celestions with extended frequency response which are usually Chinese ones but not always, the SM57 will not be the best mic for it.
I assume golden age 60-70's Celestions and '87-'04 V30 were smoother so the SM57 sounded 'correct' on them.
That's why I prefer extended range Chinese V30 in the room, but a smoother V30 infront of an SM57.

Marshall Vintage vs Marshall Greenback in my personal cabs.
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Glen Fricker Old vs New V30 video:
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SM57:
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My mixing is not good by any means but there is definitely something going on within the 6k range as well for the guitars if you add an eq....in any situation/speaker.
 
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