Synergy Owners Thread

la szum said:
Right? It's not even a debate.

I am happy for those into this sort of thing.... but the hyperbolic statements and proclamations
made above are just fodder for the unaware and uninitiated. Seriously!

#notsorry
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Please don't ever tell me that they actually don't all sound the same!
Kristen Wiig Reaction GIF by Saturday Night Live
 
You can get the EQ spectrum of the module pretty close to the real amp by boosting ~2db at 100Hz and cutting ~4db around 2200Hz in the TW video.

But it's not about the overall EQ shape or oomph. There is this buzz noise that I cannot unhear. Not sure where this comes from. Ola Englund also tested the SYN-20IR with the DRECT module and it didn't exhibit this weird bzzz.
 
Melodioso said:
@GuitarJon
The following video illustrates well the "fizzy" characteristic that I sometimes hear with the Syn-20IR head (what I was referring to in your video). It's a comparison between a real 6505 and the module. Listen here:

Real amp:

...which sounds full and has a nice clear and defined attack.

And at 2:04 the synergy module. On the attack you hear this annoying bzz fzz sound, which reminds me of the early modelers.

Can anyone else hear that ?
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It’s very hard to compare 100 watt big glass heads to 20 watt el84 heads , if you turn up the E84 power section you will get that , when you think of a Vox AC 30 it’s not really a high gain preamp
I have noticed that Fizz or rasp in a few of the synergy mods but it is also there in real amps if you play them at a really low volumes
 
Man. I couldn't listen to the whole thing (the Tone Wars vid). Did he just have the SYN20IR too loud so it's doing that thing the EL84's are notorious for? I couldn't tell what he had the master and channel volumes at...
 
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The Tone Wars did not do a close-up shot of the SYN-20IR, so no clue where the Master was set at. He just mentioned that he was using the Structure C. He also uses the same cab/mic with the 6505 and the module, so that's not the issue.

I don't think anyone expect a 20W head with EL84s to sound like a 100W with 6L6s, but in some videos the 20IR sounds really good while in others (see previous posts) there is this annoying fizzy sound. I'm trying to figure out if the root cause is some particular module or the user settings.
 
Melodioso said:
The Tone Wars did not do a close-up shot of the SYN-20IR, so no clue where the Master was set at. He just mentioned that he was using the Structure C. He also uses the same cab/mic with the 6505 and the module, so that's not the issue.

I don't think anyone expect a 20W head with EL84s to sound like a 100W with 6L6s, but in some videos the 20IR sounds really good while in others (see previous posts) there is this annoying fizzy sound. I'm trying to figure out if the root cause is some particular module or the user settings.
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Could be the guitars
Jerrod generally runs gains wide open, has a JP majesty that has that on board boost which he likely has on
Then he boosts the front end

Which videos do you hear it in ?and which do you not ?
Are they using active pickups or high output pickups
Which modules are being used
 
Yet another video has dropped for a module that has yet to be given a release date. I don’t understand Synergy’s marketing. I was willing to part with my money months ago when the first videos started showing up for this. Why is it still not for sale? This module sounds awesome.

 
Desertdweller said:
Yet another video has dropped for a module that has yet to be given a release date. I don’t understand Synergy’s marketing. I was willing to part with my money months ago when the first videos started showing up for this. Why is it still not for sale? This module sounds awesome.

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I only liked it when he moved it to the 50W power section which further cements my position: hope they come with a SYN-50IR version as well..
 
2dor said:
I only liked it when he moved it to the 50W power section which further cements my position: hope they come with a SYN-50IR version as well..
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I think it’s more likely they come out with a Syn1 and/or Syn 2 that has IR loading and power amp sims, like the Friedman IR-X. I agree on the wattage and I feel like that’s a closed issue at this point. 20w EL84 amps just don’t have the sound of big bottle tubes. They can record very well, but you’re going to get a bigger, and arguably more satisfying tone from bigger wattage amps.

The Syn5050 is a really underrated piece of kit, but I still find it funny the user manual says not to put it in a rack :D It does get hot and the fan in it revs quite loudly. I personally prefer the sound of a Mesa 2:90 with the Synergy modules, and I still need to try the Fryette 2:90:2.
 
Desertdweller said:
I think it’s more likely they come out with a Syn1 and/or Syn 2 that has IR loading and power amp sims, like the Friedman IR-X. I agree on the wattage and I feel like that’s a closed issue at this point. 20w EL84 amps just don’t have the sound of big bottle tubes. They can record very well, but you’re going to get a bigger, and arguably more satisfying tone from bigger wattage amps.

The Syn5050 is a really underrated piece of kit, but I still find it funny the user manual says not to put it in a rack :D It does get hot and the fan in it revs quite loudly. I personally prefer the sound of a Mesa 2:90 with the Synergy modules, and I still need to try the Fryette 2:90:2.
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Weird they'd make that claim about the Syn5050 (re. racking). I mean, why the 1U format then lol? Makes no sense but I've seen some inconsistencies in their documentation in the past (pertaining to the SYN1) and they corrected some of it when asked.

I was very close to getting a used Fryette PS-2A recently but it was either that or a Strandberg - the Strandberg won ... for now.
 
@2dor it’s pretty hilarious

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They clearly said this as a liability waiver should one actually cause a fire, but to say a rackmountable unit should not be installed in a rack is funny.
 
Desertdweller said:
@2dor it’s pretty hilarious

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They clearly said this as a liability waiver should one actually cause a fire, but to say a rackmountable unit should not be installed in a rack is funny.
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It says built-in installation. That would be something basically attached to your walls or something.

I think their concern here is that it's placed into a bookshelf or other cramped space where there's no proper ventilation. An actual rack intended for audio equipment is not like that.

But that wording certainly does not do them any favors.
 
2dor said:
I only liked it when he moved it to the 50W power section which further cements my position: hope they come with a SYN-50IR version as well..
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That's a 100W power section. You can clearly see when he adjusts the power amp it is in 100W bridged mode. The second master being zero doesn't have any affect on it and that LED won't light in 2x50W mode.
 
Desertdweller said:
@2dor it’s pretty hilarious

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They clearly said this as a liability waiver should one actually cause a fire, but to say a rackmountable unit should not be installed in a rack is funny.
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This is saying you should not put it in a rack with the back enclosed. Not that it can't be racked. It could be clarified a little better but you are misunderstanding what it is saying; it's not contradicting itself.
 
Elric said:
This is saying you should not put it in a rack with the back enclosed. Not that it can't be racked. It could be clarified a little better but you are misunderstanding what it is saying; it's not contradicting itself.
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You are purposely and pedantically avoiding seeing the humor in the situation, Buzz Killington :D
 
Richard_G said:
I have a used SYN-1 with an OG SLO module incoming. This will be my first personal experience with the Synergy ecosystem - looking forward to giving it a shot!
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Finally received my SYN-1 and OG SLO module today.

With the kids asleep I had to keep the volume down. So I ran the balanced XLR out (without cab sim) into Logic, where I used NAM power amp captures from @Slammin Mofo and cab IRs from York.

First impressions: I like this better than I dared to hope for!
 
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