Strymon teasing new pedal

Whizzinby said:
I’m curious if it is indeed a Brig if it’s meant as a replacement of the standard form factor Brigadier. Doing small form factor releases that deep dive one aspect of the large boxes makes some sense, but for the standard format pedals it just seems odd to compete against each other separated by $50-75. That is unless they just shrunk the entire pedal down, and they intend for this to be the only Brig.
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I guess they're just tailoring their product to the changing market and feedback over the years. It's worth having a look at the rationale for the Cloudburst. It's there on their product page:

"We had some very lofty goals in mind with Cloudburst, and foremost on the list was creating the best-sounding single algorithm reverb we possibly could."

"In addition, we wanted to provide a whole new variety of sounds never before heard from a reverb pedal, which we accomplished in part with the addition of our new Ensemble effect"

"... we wanted to create something that was easier to use than any product we’d ever designed. As a result, there are no secondary or “hidden” functions on Cloudburst – it’s controlled by just a few knobs and a switch, exactly as they’re labeled, so you can dial up the perfect sound instantly with no fuss."

That will probably apply to whatever small format pedal they do next; Brig or not.
 
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Whizzinby said:
I’m curious if it is indeed a Brig if it’s meant as a replacement of the standard form factor Brigadier. Doing small form factor releases that deep dive one aspect of the large boxes makes some sense, but for the standard format pedals it just seems odd to compete against each other separated by $50-75. That is unless they just shrunk the entire pedal down, and they intend for this to be the only Brig.
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They could probably cram the features of the Brigadier, Ola and Orbit all into this smaller form factor without losing anything of relevance while adding MIDI support.

The V2 series exists because they probably can't get the Analog Devices DSP chips in quantities they need to support the whole lineup, but enough to keep making the Volante, Nightsky, Iridium and Riverside. Looks like the V2 series and Cloudburst use the same processors whereas the Zelzah is a slightly slower one.

The smaller pedals are there to offer a slightly cheaper lineup perfect for the effects that never did that many things, like the whole dBucket range. My guess is that over the next few years they'll throw out smaller versions of these one by one while they also work on a new Stryfecta or better yet, a multifx unit.
 
Last year when I was getting into pedals I would have loved a Strymon setup but the prices kept me away. Tonally they seem awesome, but $350 each for delay, reverb, modulation, etc. is a lot. For two pedals you can get an HX Stomp that’s way more flexible and powerful, and for three you can get into a Helix LT or Fractal FM3. And if you look at the Stryfecta, then you’re looking at a full Helix Floor. Plus you have to get power, cables, and MIDI for all of them, and a board, etc.

That’s why I ended up with a bunch of simple MXR pedals. Price and simplicity.

It would be awesome to have an all-in-one multi effect that was a hybrid of something like HX Effects and Strymon pedals. A big screen so you can see what’s happening and build your virtual pedalboard, but lots of knobs to interact with. Even better would be either real knobs like Strymon or something like Kemper where it feels like a real knob but uses LED’s to show the value at a glance.

So you could build a virtual board and not worry about patch cables or power supplies or Velcro, swap effects in and out, touch the switch for an effect and then adjust all the parameters on the fly, and also have a snapshot mode too.
 
Jarick said:
Tonally they seem awesome, but $350 each for delay, reverb, modulation, etc. is a lot. For two pedals you can get an HX Stomp that’s way more flexible and powerful, and for three you can get into a Helix LT or Fractal FM3. And if you look at the Stryfecta, then you’re looking at a full Helix Floor. Plus you have to get power, cables, and MIDI for all of them, and a board, etc.
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While this is true, IMO neither the HX nor Fractal matches Strymon quality.
 
laxu said:
or better yet, a multifx unit.
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I’d pay almost any price to get a Strymon HXFX. Hell if they were worried about cannibilizing sales of later releases I’d even get on board with having to pay a discounted price to add future effects to it. QC-like form factor with a smaller screen to have say two signal paths…

Make It Rain Money GIF
 
jellodog said:
@Whizzinby They are due a Brigadier repackage sometime this year and I read elsewhere that Strymon had registered Brig as a trademark i.e. potentially a Cloudburst sized version with tweaks. I have been waiting for this!

- Track 45 left. Stop.

- Enhance 15 to 23.

- Give me a hard copy right there.

It looks greenish perhaps? Colour hue looks like it could be in the Brig ballpark.

Although it is too late for me now that I gave up waiting and bought the Memory Lane.

Is it too late though? :satan

Terrible photoshop skills in that image around the Strymon "S". Pedal probably had the box next to it!
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This is expert witness worthy.
 
paisleywookiee said:
While this is true, IMO neither the HX nor Fractal matches Strymon quality.
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I think if Fractal reconfigured their effects parameters so there were fewer knobs that were more effective they would be competitive for quality. My biggest problem is not knowing what to tweak where and getting away from the stock presets which are usually boring or over the top.
 
Jarick said:
I think if Fractal reconfigured their effects parameters so there were fewer knobs that were more effective they would be competitive for quality.
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Neither modellers use 96kHz A/D and D/A for a start, unlike the Strymon pedals.

Although there are reasons for that; one of which is that multiple digital Strymon devices could be chained, so you don't want further degradation from many conversions, wheras multi-fx devices usually keep the signal flow within the box (as much as possible - sure they have FX loops available), so it's less of an issue.
 
Major role reversal.

Boss puts out two new, very different delay offerings. Blowing minds in the process (at least mine!).

Strymon be like, "Yeah we updated this pedal we were already making. Ok if we call it by the same name, but give it a
cool V2 suffix?"
 
la szum said:
Strymon be like, "Yeah we updated this pedal we were already making. Ok if we call it by the same name, but give it a
cool V2 suffix?"
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I might have bought the V2 El Cap though :bag

... even though I might not using it at all, because Memory Lane.
 
la szum said:
Major role reversal.

Boss puts out two new, very different delay offerings. Blowing minds in the process (at least mine!).

Strymon be like, "Yeah we updated this pedal we were already making. Ok if we call it by the same name, but give it a
cool V2 suffix?"
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That's probably a testament to how many things Strymon got right the first time on a lot of their stuff.

I don't think they are better sounding than anything out there, but they do get the overall package right. Only V1 pedal I've had was the Flint and the lack of MIDI control was literally the only reason I sold it as I heard the rumors of V2 models coming.

With Boss it's always "yeah, I'm interested in this thing...oh, it has some stupid caveat to it"
 
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