Polyphonic pitch. Perception is everything I guess

[shanesiegle]

The poly pitch is the best I’ve used. I used a drop for years and it’s good but after the HX I can’t go back.

 

[Bob Zaod]

The poly pitch is the best I’ve used. I used a drop for years and it’s good but after the HX I can’t go back.

Same experience here. Which begs the question, why do some say it's terrible? I think it's it's user error.

 

[JiveTurkey]

They all have a "thing" they impart to the tone. The GK has a growly cocked wah thing (duh, Boss!) that works great for my ears. The FAS is really good. There is a bit of a latency in heavy CPU presets. The Stomp I don't use much because you don't have any room to stretch out in a preset if you do use it.

 

[pipelineaudio]

I keep putting on and taking off my Mooer Pitchbox pedal (its the only one I could find small enough to really fit). I wish it had a way to switch it on and off with helix's amp switcher. It has quite a bit of latency and is nowhere near as good sounding as Helix's polycapo, though it is way less muffled and dark than the digitech drop

 

[shanesiegle]

Same experience here. Which begs the question, why do some say it's terrible? I think it's it's user error.

It has to be, I can't remember what but there are a couple settings that really change the way it works.

 

[Bob Zaod]

It has to be, I can't remember what but there are a couple settings that really change the way it works.

For me it's setting the tracking to fast and the auto eq to 8.9

 

[la szum]

I'd love to buy a current production Variax but unfortunately I am a left handed player.

What about robbing the guts and putting it in one of your guitars?

 

[la szum]

I've circled the Variax stuff a time or two but they were always weird body styles or I heard nothing but terrible things about the palm mutes (my entire reason for this kind of tech in a non-guitar synth guitar) and it also required me to be all in on Helix much more than I wanted to be.

They do blow. Hard. Evewn my Buddy who has 2 Variaxes agrees. Piezo gonna Piezo.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

why do some say it's terrible?

Likely because they are comparing to these:

 

[Bob Zaod]

What about robbing the guts and putting it in one of your guitars?

Lot's of very sensitive parts. One mess up and goodbye.

 

[Bob Zaod]

Likely because they are comparing to these:

Right. The first one works better for stuff like Jet Airliner and the 2nd one can't compete with my Tronical system. Nothing could compete if all you had to do for ANY tuning was step on a switch. I play in E standard, 1/2 step down, full step down, double drop D, 3 semitones down, 3 semi-tones up, Open E, Open G, on a regular basis and occasionally DADGAD.

 

[la szum]

Lot's of very sensitive parts. One mess up and goodbye.

It's just pots, a bridge/trem with piezos, and a PCB. Nothing too outlandish.

Biggest issue would be routing a cavity for the PCB/Brains in the back of the guitar.
I looked into all of this in the past and have owned a Variax, and thought it might be cool
to put the guts into a nice guitar.

I just realizeed I don't like the plinky digitalness of piezo triggered sounds.

 

[Bob Zaod]

It's just pots, a bridge/trem with piezos, and a PCB. Nothing too outlandish.

Biggest issue would be routing a cavity for the PCB/Brains in the back of the guitar.
I looked into all of this in the past and have owned a Variax, and thought it might be cool
to put the guts into a nice guitar.

I just realizeed I don't like the plinky digitalness of piezo triggered sounds.

Piezos have to be removed and reversed. Already looked into it. very fine wires attached to them. Way too much at stake to chance it.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Dude. Forgot about these. Bought but never installed it

https://hex-fx.org/

 

[Bob Zaod]

Dude. Forgot about these. Bought but never installed it

https://hex-fx.org/

yeah I was tempted. Have to cut out the pick guard for the hex pup though right?

 

[JiveTurkey]

yeah I was tempted. Have to cut out the pick guard for the hex pup though right?

A little bit. Depending on what you are putting it on?

 

[yeky83]

Dude. Forgot about these. Bought but never installed it

https://hex-fx.org/

That's so cool, I might have to buy it and put it in my drawer

 

[ejecta]

IME the Helix and Digitech both change the feel even at not half down. Is that deal breaker? No but I can tell. That said I agree the Helix does a good job… probably the best one in any of the modelers I have.

 

[Bob Zaod]

A little bit. Depending on what you are putting it on?

I had a buddy over a few weeks ago and he brought his Fishman Triple Play thing with him. Interesting but it seemed laggy.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I had a buddy over a few weeks ago and he brought his Fishman Triple Play thing with him. Interesting but it seemed laggy.

The Triple Play is great if you are sitting at home chained to a DAW. I tried playing live with it once. Once.