Plugin Piracy Thread
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ian_dissonance
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I pirated some stuff back in the day when I was young. Then I realized a stable system without computer AIDS was worth more than having the newest/bestest and more or less stealing from software makers. Except Waves. I highly recommend stealing Waves shit if you need to use it. I removed that bloat years ago at this point, but I can’t imagine a crack of it is any less stable than the official release.
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That is insane, the convo should be redirected.Can we get this locked before it starts please?lol
We are adults, if people want to give up too much information thats on them.
There are decent discussions around this not relating to any specific plugin vendor, I think its fine. Hopefully people who 100% justify these things might stumble onto discussions like this and go... yeah it actually affects people doesnt it, might need to rethink that.
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Ah, are you a connoisseur of the burnt peanutMoving away from the other thread so its not brought up over and over.
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I was only making a joke.
I'd say for anyone with a "normal life," generally, trial periods are way too short...
Me, I would prefer to have "everything" for many months (yup, even years) and it will become obvious if I want to buy some of them and I may do that. I feel this "extended trial period" is one of the positives with cracks. Sure, if they all work fine, why still buy it? But some people will. "Nothing is more fun" than to reward a company/product you love, to feel safer about the use of that software, and get the updates immediately. Although, IIRC, some software is famous for people to install the crack even if they purchased it (because the cracks run better or are less intruding).
Me, I would prefer to have "everything" for many months (yup, even years) and it will become obvious if I want to buy some of them and I may do that. I feel this "extended trial period" is one of the positives with cracks. Sure, if they all work fine, why still buy it? But some people will. "Nothing is more fun" than to reward a company/product you love, to feel safer about the use of that software, and get the updates immediately. Although, IIRC, some software is famous for people to install the crack even if they purchased it (because the cracks run better or are less intruding).
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[Nathan]
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Acustica enters the chat
(I'm not 100% sure but thats the one that comes to mind when people say this)
Sleezy E
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This.
I had a lot of pirated stuff when I was young.. but chasing bugs in pirated crap sucks.
The last cracked program I actually remember using was Sonar... until I found Reaper
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I hear what you're saying and I know the reality of movies/tv shows/windows etc
But its all stealing and indefensible. Someone might mis scan something from the grocery store and get away with it, do they then brag and justify why they did it? I find the topic and peoples reaction to it all kind of fascinating tbh.
I think if you put the shoe on the other foot and YOU were the one creating a company from scratch, hiring people, coding things, doing artwork, the other 1000 things that goes with putting yourself out there as a business... and a bunch of people just grabbed your software and used it "endlessly" under the guise of "I might buy it one day... maybe", you'd feel different about it.
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Dude, no one's having a crack for months or years, and then deciding "yeah, I guess I've fucked the company long enough. I'm buyin' it!"
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Yeah I love that FabFilter does 14 day demos. Really cool vs the standard 7 day trials. It gives you the ability to get out of that initial honeymoon window and settle in with it before making a decision to purchase. Then again, it’s FabFilter, so they are justified to have the confidence and the balls it takes to offer a more generous demo period.
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If you can’t tell in a couple hours if something is going to be of value that’s seems odd. Did it do the thing you wanted? Does it do something that other stuff doesn’t do and you like it? If it does do something other stuff does, does it improve your workflow? Doesn’t take months to figure that out.
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These are the same guys that "rent" something from Guitar Center for 45 days, and still can't figure out if it's for them or not.
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I’m reminded of the “sessions I’m still working on years later” thing from another thread. At some point you’re just dicking around and you don’t need anything other than stick plugins for that.
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Ive trialled some plugins, didnt get use out of it for whatever reason.
Then I want to try it again 3 months later, arrrgh, whatever
Then again 3 months later arrrgh
Then I see it on special... I dont need it now but I'm buying out of FOMO for later
This is normal behaviour imo. If I really wanted it at those times I would have crumbled and bought it, obviously it can (and did) wait.
I just realised I missed out on buying plugin doctor for half price, perfect example lol
"Yes and no"...
I did have a great idea once that I did a lot of programming for but that idea really came too late. With that I of course realized that in an honest world I would have become very, very rich... -- even if only the honest would buy it. It also made me realize how even for a simple software the work is never-ending (programming, website, manuals, on and on...), how one small mistake can screw up the entire thing, ..., and that it takes more than people tend to think.
OTOH, I was prepared to have it be stolen as I sure enjoyed my share of cracks in my time... Kind of "balancing things out" there.
I'm now leading a simple PC life where I don't seem to need a crack of anything.
There's only one thing I'm ashamed of for using so much and never purchasing so far... Total Commander. I do purchase stuff when I get lucky financially. I got a pretty big donation out of the blue two years ago and I mostly purchased software with it. But if you don't have the money, life is too short to not have a crack of anything, IMO. There's just too much cool stuff out there once you really get into something. But like many say: you really get into collecting and not using anything very much... I've had these runs with Photoshop plugins and DAW plugins. The latter was pure collecting as I've only used a DAW for a few dozen hours in my whole life. Ideally, plugins should be free for such limited use ;p as in that case you do need a very extended trial period and you just may end up buying some.
It's also true that if you spend the money you will try to dive deeper into it and actually learn to use it well -- a big plus for buying. As they say: better to know one thing very well vs. having notions of 100 others (although that is useful too -- some things you only need once).
