Pedal Plagiarism

[dronerstone]

I changed my mind on this subject when I was researching a delay pedal. Turns out the one I wanted was a 1:1 of the schematic in the PT2399 datasheet.

Care to specify?

 

[James Freeman]

JHS, Wampler, and a ton more "boutique" pedal builders made a good living out of plagarism, lets not put a lipstick on a pig.
I would buy a clone of a clone on Ali with a crystal clear conscious.
Heck, I just bought an exact clone of a King of Tone on Ali, paint job and all, it's a 90's MARSHALL BLUESBREAKER so Analog Man can cry me a river.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

JHS, Wampler, and a ton more "boutique" pedal builders made a good living out of plagarism, lets not put a lipstick on a pig.
I would buy a clone of a clone on Ali with a crystal clear conscious.
Heck, I just bought an exact clone of a King of Tone on Ali, paint job and all, it's a 90's MARSHALL BLUESBREAKER so Analog Man can cry me a river.

I only have an issue with it when the builder pretends it's something it's not and then issues cease and desist orders to stop people finding out. At least wampler and Analogman are pretty open about which circuit they've modded.

But yeah I've no issue with people buying or building clones either. Thorpy, JHS or wampler aren't losing any money by me building a clone because I was never going to spend £300 on dirt box de jour anyway.

 

[BahamaDada]

Have a first hand experience here:

Bought a NUX Analog Delay yesterday. Pedal even says it "Reissue Series". Reissue of what? Not you pedal. Anyway, the pedal is very nice and the pedal they copied from is not in production for a long time (Ibanez AD9). Even the "neighbor" (Boss DM2) is only availeable as overpriced Waza. No problem with plagiarism for me here, even though the thing is a 1:1 copy.

Disclaimer: Have never owned the Ibanez or Boss myself, so only comparisons I could make are YT.

 

[James Freeman]

I've waited... and waited... for 5 days.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I've waited... and waited... for 5 days.

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Any chance of some gut shots?

 

[JiveTurkey]

I've waited... and waited... for 5 days.

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Somewhere a Mosky pedal is crying You did the right thing here I'd say \m/

 

[James Freeman]

Very high quality clone, pot covers, quality caps, great soldering, carbon comp resistors in various spots, they even put a piece of tubing on the battery connector. This is the highest quality chinese clone I've seen, and I own a ton of them.
5 years, really? GTFO.

* It's the LY-ROCK brand on Aliexpress if you want to know.

 

[JiveTurkey]

So a Mosky pedal isn't crying after all but an actual AnalogMan pedal is

 

[James Freeman]

So a Mosky pedal isn't crying after all but an actual AnalogMan pedal is

It's like you don't know me at all.

 

[dronerstone]

Very high quality clone, pot covers, quality caps, great soldering, carbon comp resistors in various spots, they even put a piece of tubing on the battery connector. This is the highest quality chinese clone I've seen, and I own a ton of them.
5 years, really? GTFO.

* It's the LY-ROCK brand on Aliexpress if you want to know.

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I know, trade dress and all, but even though I think it's shameless and crazy sh*t, the build looks legit.

Sounds great too, I'd imagine?

Did you tell them to send you a 1:1 counterfeit though, since there's also a "Ly Rock" branded one, if I recall correctly.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Wow I can't believe they've cloned the pcb and managed to find or had some caps made which look like Panasonic ECQs.

 

[holoholo]

Chinese toan so hot right now

 

[dronerstone]

When you can't afford a pedal but don't want to be seen with a Joyo or Nux clone...

"Dig the looks? -> Support the crooks!"

 

[SillyOctpuss]

When you can't afford a pedal but don't want to be seen with a Joyo or Nux clone...

"Dig the looks? -> Support the crooks!"

 

[James Freeman]

The BD-2 sounds better imho, and if you boost the BD-2 with a SD-1 you have a great JCM800 tone all from BOSS pedals.

 

[holoholo]

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Laughs in "FRFR"

 

[holoholo]

I’ve never understood the bd2 hype train. I tried it out and it sounded like harsh ass. But Andy Timmons makes it sound

 

[gearJunkie]

Good looking, solid build, sounds great.

Demon-FX's take on the King Tone Duelist v2.

$60 vs $350.

 

[EOengineer]

Build a couple pedals and you quickly realize VERY few companies are putting out novel effects circuits. Not unlike tube amps, everything is based off a couple different designs and then maybe a popular mod is thrown on a switch as a differentiator.

Screw the Behringers of the world who steal wholesale designs, but pedal builders have always riffed off of each other - not unlike how we lift musical ideas from our musical heroes. That approach is part of the tradition and IMO actually helps drive innovation.