Paint Audio MIDI Captain foot controller

Ugh i don't know pyswitch?

Edit: Looks like pyswitch is just for kemper
PySwitch is like an app that helps you to build a custom firmware for the unit. The main feature - midi in to control LEDs and screen. It was designed for Kemper. But it can be used for many purposes. I have coded it for Ableton to see the states of fxs, looper states, play head position.
So in total I can control and see next:

8 on/off fxs on leds ang screen
4 Loopers with current state, next state, play head on a screen
Selected looper states and next state with LEDs
Connection established with screen
Tempo with screen text and blinking beat with LEDs

So that's huge!!
With that all I have reached unit memory limit. So nothing more can be added.

And you can build your own firmware for your purposes.
 
Ok i fucking hate this thing already lol. Just got it a few hrs ago and I'm lost...

All I wanna do is control my polyend step with it, why must it be so hard!

Should have saved up for morningstar mc3 for another $100 more.

This mini 6 is so damn confusing.

Like right out of the box it can control songs and increase and decrease songs, that's fine and i want that.

However I have no idea how to increase / decrease through the patterns which are cc# 82 to 96.
Well I got it to go to 82 but i want to increase/decrease but not sure how.

Also not sure how to control the footswitches on STEP on the midi controller so i can start/stop play back also turn on/off effects switch too.

May just be sending this back... The most confusing midi i've ever dealt with!
 
So the product is very bad.
But for this price it is the best one on the market.

What The Wtf GIF by ABC Network
 
Ok i fucking hate this thing already lol. Just got it a few hrs ago and I'm lost...

All I wanna do is control my polyend step with it, why must it be so hard!

Should have saved up for morningstar mc3 for another $100 more.

This mini 6 is so damn confusing.

Like right out of the box it can control songs and increase and decrease songs, that's fine and i want that.

However I have no idea how to increase / decrease through the patterns which are cc# 82 to 96.
Well I got it to go to 82 but i want to increase/decrease but not sure how.

Also not sure how to control the footswitches on STEP on the midi controller so i can start/stop play back also turn on/off effects switch too.

May just be sending this back... The most confusing midi i've ever dealt with!
Use pySwitch. You can code that inc/Dec there.
Or code it's firmware from scratch. It is just a raspberry chip with connected LEDs, screen and buttons.
Stock firmware is a simple midiout+led(on/off). Bold, limited, slow.
 
Use pySwitch. You can code that inc/Dec there.
Or code it's firmware from scratch. It is just a raspberry chip with connected LEDs, screen and buttons.
Stock firmware is a simple midiout+led(on/off). Bold, limited, slow.

I don't even know where to find it or how to code pyswitch lol.

I'm sending it back and getting a morningstar mc3 or m6 like I should have, but I thought I'd try to save money, should have known better lol.
 
I don't even know where to find it or how to code pyswitch lol.

I'm sending it back and getting a morningstar mc3 or m6 like I should have, but I thought I'd try to save money, should have known better lol.

I scored my MC6 Pro for $285 on Reverb, but there’s the first version for $165 on there right now.
 
Ok i fucking hate this thing already lol. Just got it a few hrs ago and I'm lost...

All I wanna do is control my polyend step with it, why must it be so hard!

Should have saved up for morningstar mc3 for another $100 more.

This mini 6 is so damn confusing.

Like right out of the box it can control songs and increase and decrease songs, that's fine and i want that.

However I have no idea how to increase / decrease through the patterns which are cc# 82 to 96.
Well I got it to go to 82 but i want to increase/decrease but not sure how.

Also not sure how to control the footswitches on STEP on the midi controller so i can start/stop play back also turn on/off effects switch too.

May just be sending this back... The most confusing midi i've ever dealt with!

I thought about buying one of these, but this doesn't give me much confidence, lol.

I remember reading that you have to edit it through a text file you copy onto it like an external hard drive or something.

I did pick up a cheap Chocolate Plus that I use to control my ToneX One. It would probably make a good add-on to the FM3 also.
 
I thought about buying one of these, but this doesn't give me much confidence, lol.

I remember reading that you have to edit it through a text file you copy onto it like an external hard drive or something.

I did pick up a cheap Chocolate Plus that I use to control my ToneX One. It would probably make a good add-on to the FM3 also.

Yeah you can edit it through text files but none of it makes sense to me lol. Like I don't see anywhere where it shows that I can go and do decrease and increase or banking etc. To me it's just a big pile of crap lol. The morningstars are a lot better and the app is a lot better! I had a few of those I regret letting go of them!
 
I'm not up to speed with the new modes but the first firmware definitely needed the text editor. Second FW added the super mode that had an onboard editor, the one in more familiar with. The third FW added the Show On Rails-esque BS that lost me on this product.

The Super mode was nifty because you had multiple pages of switches that could send multiple PC and CC messages at any value per switch. This mode, the battery power, and the wireless are what make this a keeper for me. I want to try to use it with my Kat head.
 
I don't even know where to find it or how to code pyswitch lol.

I'm sending it back and getting a morningstar mc3 or m6 like I should have, but I thought I'd try to save money, should have known better lol.
Wise choice!
Morning star looked promising at the beginning. But don't actually know how it comes.

You can hire me to help you with your midi controllers. It seems like I am the most experienced midiCaptain user here.
 
I thought about buying one of these, but this doesn't give me much confidence, lol.

I remember reading that you have to edit it through a text file you copy onto it like an external hard drive or something.

I did pick up a cheap Chocolate Plus that I use to control my ToneX One. It would probably make a good add-on to the FM3 also.
I edited one of the included files. I have it as complex as one button having 2-3 MIDI commands pressed and 2-3 MIDI commands when released. You just have to take a few minutes to see how the syntax of the text file works.
 
Doubtful, but you can have it because that's a bragging right I'm sure neither I or @mbenigni care to wrestle over.
After trying and failing to keep up with this thread (and the firmware releases), I accepted that I'm not really "experienced" with the MIDI Captain. But I am still a fan. :)

I was an early adopter and I still use mine daily. But I think the secret to my success has been the KISS method. I left mine in its default non-Turbo/ non-Genius/ non-whateverTFtheycallit mode, edited the text files as described to send PC/CC's as needed, and let all of the sophisticated work happen in the target device(s). As God intended. (If you buy, for instance, a $1500 modeler and a $150 foot controller, and then you try to make the $150 foot controller do the heavy lifting... you get what you deserve LOL.)

The only caveat to my "success" is that I haven't paid much attention to what the MIDI Captain's LEDs are doing as I mess around with Presets vs. Stomps vs. Scenes vs. Looper controls... My thinking is pretty much unidirectional: MC > QC. But I've learned the hard way (by growing old messing with these things), sometimes you just have to pick your battles. I simply mapped its switches to my QC's switches. I change modes via touchscreen or an unused switch as needed, and I play guitar. $150ish with wireless, rechargeable battery, 10 silent switches, and a couple of (admittedly laggy) expression pedal inputs. Good enough, and I hope Mr. Wilson is having a nice vacation. :D

A final note: I still think the text file editing - while kind of shockingly retro on first impression - is a fine solution. I've been through A LOT of these programmable footswitches and their pretty Windows and Bluetooth iOS editors, and they have ALL sucked in some little vexing way or another (usually pertaining to how they handle latching vs. momentary, or switch press vs. switch release), and they're all slower and more burdensome to use in practice, versus simply typing what I want into a text file on a nice big keyboard/ monitor. The MIDI Captain text files are very detailed and very explicit in terms of what their settings actually mean - provided you know MIDI well enough. And the fact that they're simple text files make it easy to backup, duplicate, and modify variations. Once you get past the "not shiny" vibe, it's actually highly practical IMO. (To play devil's advocate, maybe it wasn't documented clearly enough and it was just intuitive to me, for some reason, e.g. I'm a dinosaur LOL.)
 
After trying and failing to keep up with this thread (and the firmware releases), I accepted that I'm not really "experienced" with the MIDI Captain. But I am still a fan. :)

I was an early adopter and I still use mine daily. But I think the secret to my success has been the KISS method. I left mine in its default non-Turbo/ non-Genius/ non-whateverTFtheycallit mode, edited the text files as described to send PC/CC's as needed, and let all of the sophisticated work happen in the target device(s). As God intended. (If you buy, for instance, a $1500 modeler and a $150 foot controller, and then you try to make the $150 foot controller do the heavy lifting... you get what you deserve LOL.)

The only caveat to my "success" is that I haven't paid much attention to what the MIDI Captain's LEDs are doing as I mess around with Presets vs. Stomps vs. Scenes vs. Looper controls... My thinking is pretty much unidirectional: MC > QC. But I've learned the hard way (by growing old messing with these things), sometimes you just have to pick your battles. I simply mapped its switches to my QC's switches. I change modes via touchscreen or an unused switch as needed, and I play guitar. $150ish with wireless, rechargeable battery, 10 silent switches, and a couple of (admittedly laggy) expression pedal inputs. Good enough, and I hope Mr. Wilson is having a nice vacation. :D

A final note: I still think the text file editing - while kind of shockingly retro on first impression - is a fine solution. I've been through A LOT of these programmable footswitches and their pretty Windows and Bluetooth iOS editors, and they have ALL sucked in some little vexing way or another (usually pertaining to how they handle latching vs. momentary, or switch press vs. switch release), and they're all slower and more burdensome to use in practice, versus simply typing what I want into a text file on a nice big keyboard/ monitor. The MIDI Captain text files are very detailed and very explicit in terms of what their settings actually mean - provided you know MIDI well enough. And the fact that they're simple text files make it easy to backup, duplicate, and modify variations. Once you get past the "not shiny" vibe, it's actually highly practical IMO. (To play devil's advocate, maybe it wasn't documented clearly enough and it was just intuitive to me, for some reason, e.g. I'm a dinosaur LOL.)
The text editor thing to me is strangely appealing for all the same reasons :bag
 
The text editor thing to me is strangely appealing for all the same reasons :bag
I remember the first time I tried to plug my iPhone into my PC and see the contents of the SSD inside... and almost everything was missing. I did not consider that a "feature".

Plugging the MIDI Captain into a USB jack and having full control of everything via good ol' Notepad. That's a pro, not a con.
 
Well, it depends on what user are you.
Many, and seems the most are like:
- I bought it to use it lol but it just don't works lol I throw it away lol
Or at some luck it may suit their needs in a limited way.

My approach is to use things that do exactly what I want uncovering it's full potential. I used many controllers. And all they firmwares and developers are not satisfying...
So, who can do better than me? Would love to meet that person.

The way changed for midiCaptain and pySwitch. Really thanks for pySwitch developer. Where anyone can build its own firmware with midi feedback for screen and led's. That's really huge.
I spent two hard weeks to make it work as I want. As pySwitch was designed to the Kemper setup - and my setup is Ableton - I have created some functions and classes for my own purpose. And it was much easier then to programm the unit from scratch (which is still achievable for an advanced users).

The problem still not solved - the hardware. Mr. Wilson put a really slow and limited chip inside midiCaptain with so low memory... I hope his vacation will turn to him as he turns to his customers. May be someday I will design a PCB for midiCaptain with a better hardware, power, and connection options.

So midiCaptain is just a try of a guy to make great controller. And not a good one though. But it's nice that someone is still trying. Wish to see more educated musicians doing this job.
 
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