No more 4cm!!! Boss or bust? (GX100?)

[Shredder777]

Let's not go crazy now

Boss / Roland was doing 4cm when Digital Igloo was still in diapers.

 

[TubeStack]

So how did the GT1000 turn out long term in 4cm?

I think the limitation is that there wouldn't be any boosts that I like more than my pedals, so even if it works well I would still be using a pedal.

The only thing I lament going back to an analog front is losing the built in noise suppressor.

I liked it at the time. Form factor is perfect, very easy to move around and setup, switches and pedal are well-placed for live use. Easy enough to work on, setting up patches and editing, from what I remember. I only did a few band practices with it, I think, before moving it on. Never gigged it.

Felt good in 4cm, not detached or muffled, I don't think, and no extra noise or hum (unlike the FM9, which was awesome but had significant hum in 4cm and needed a Hum Exterminator). Also, the GT1000 amp channel switching worked with my Electra Dyne with no ground hum, unlike the Helix Floor and HX Effects, which were unusable without snipping the ground on the TRS cable.

But overall I don't think I found the effects super-inspiring and missed a lot of Helix and/or Fractal stuff.

 

[TubeStack]

^^^ I should add, the FM9 ground loop thing was only in some places, not everywhere.

 

[Shredder777]

But overall I don't think I found the effects super-inspiring and missed a lot of Helix and/or Fractal stuff.

I'm waiting for the next generation of each product.

I think in the end it doesn't make sense to do 4cm at the expense of effects you really want. For the most part, having an analog front end isn't much hardship, except you need to buy a noise gate and wah pedal and whatever boosts you probably already have.

I had the GT1000 next to the G11 on my desk and with the Boss I was like, "not again". I recognize the power of Boss assigns/routing/switching, but at the same time it is disruptive while you are trying to create. The G11 also integrates well with my gear, but it doesn't have as low a latency or any advanced features like boss.

 

[TubeStack]

Yeah, I've used 4cm with HX Effects, Helix Floor, FM3, FM9, and GT1000, but I think I'm done with it, at least for now. My new analog in front + VP4 in loop is the best sounding board I've ever had by far, very happy with it. Still technically 4cm, but not with an all-in-one digital unit.

 

[Shredder777]

Yeah, I've used 4cm with HX Effects, Helix Floor, FM3, FM9, and GT1000, but I think I'm done with it, at least for now. My new analog in front + VP4 in loop is the best sounding board I've ever had by far, very happy with it. Still technically 4cm, but not with an all-in-one digital unit.

I always used Boss and assumed 4cm would work with any brand, but thats not really the case. Problem with Boss is they are lacking in some key areas (UI, IR handling/routing, etc)

If I'm not using 4cm, I don't want the processor to have an integrated footpedal, because that is a waste of space. The VP4 is making alot of sense. Also products like the Plethora X5.

I don't like tiny boxes like the HX stomp or GT1000 that have everything crammed. I think having a dedicated footswitch for each effect makes alot of sense so you don't have to program that stuff.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

I'm waiting for the next generation of each product. […]

I have heard this before.