NDSP Quad Cortex

[2dor]

It comes down to simply the cost of running that training on the cloud. They can subvent it with that 1600 price but aren't going to let power users go crazy with it where they might need to be e.g at a more expensive price bracket due to volume of trainings.

40/day sounds like a lot to me. At that point you are capturing amps all day long.

True - 40's a lot but maybe you do 1 amp and several pedals & you'd hit that threshold faster than you think; I'm just curious if they allow you to reamp but process the next day.

 

[laxu]

True - 40's a lot but maybe you do 1 amp and several pedals & you'd hit that threshold faster than you think; I'm just curious if they allow you to reamp but process the next day.

Yeah something similar to Tonex V2 system would be good where your captures end up in a queue, and you need to move them to a separate processing queue from there. Which in NDSP's case would be cloud processing.

I do hope they add on-computer processing as an option for those who want to make a shitload of captures.

 

[mbenigni]

Interesting how they sort of took the Kemper v2 route - this is cool, but it sucks that "good" captures can no longer be created in-device, let alone without an internet connection.

Really nice update otherwise. A Micropitch model!

I may be misunderstanding your concern here, but V1 captures on-device are still supported.

 

[mbenigni]

Finally! I was just about to move on from mine because of the lack of dumble model (which I almost exclusively play). They teased it before launch and never released it. Guess I’ll stick around a while longer

I’ve never even seen a Dumble IRL, but this model is amazing. It’s like an amplifier construction set, and it feels great to play. I’m starting to understand why folks pay bazillions of dollars for the real hardware.

 

[GTR37]

I’ve never even seen a Dumble IRL, but this model is amazing. It’s like an amplifier construction set, and it feels great to play. I’m starting to understand why folks pay bazillions of dollars for the real hardware.

16 real world owners and Mark Tremonti can’t be wrong

 

[noizmsm]

the only reason most people buy devices that also happen to have capture profile is that they plan to download the best amps in the world lol
Or they may rent 2 or 3 day in a studio and record everything...but ultimately it's for poor people like me who would never play a Bogner Fish or a Bogner Ubershall

 

[deadpool_25]

I may be misunderstanding your concern here, but V1 captures on-device are still supported.

Yeah and V1 captures were already “good”. V2 is just apparently better.

That's the other thing with training locally on MY computer. I'm not limited to 10 a day, 40 a day, however many a day. I can do as many as I'd like.

Implementing a limitation ... that really blows IMO. People have paid £1600 for your device.

I get where this is coming from but you can still do as many captures as you want on your hardware using V1.

I don’t see it as them “implementing a limitation.” They added a new capability that has some limitations. I’d think the 40 capture limitation is there to ensure everyone has the ability to use it since it’s using finite compute servers. And I wouldn’t imagine all that many people will be wanting to spend much more than 7 hours a day capturing gear anyway.

 

[Lysander]

I may be misunderstanding your concern here, but V1 captures on-device are still supported.

They are, but apparently V2's are way better, so will people even bother?

From what little i've gathered, these new Neural Captures are truly "neural", in the sense they're NN-based, like NAM, ToneX, Proxy et al. This also means there's zero chance to train them in-device - DSPs are simply not up to the task.

 

[mbenigni]

They are, but apparently V2's are way better, so will people even bother?

From what little i've gathered, these new Neural Captures are truly "neural", in the sense they're NN-based, like NAM, ToneX, Proxy et al. This also means there's zero chance to train them in-device - DSPs are simply not up to the task.

I think it depends on what you’re capturing. V1 amp captures were and remain excellent. V2 overcomes challenges with really dynamic stuff like fuzz.

Point is, if you want/ need local capturing, you’ve still got it.

 

[2dor]

I think it depends on what you’re capturing. V1 amp captures were and remain excellent. V2 overcomes challenges with really dynamic stuff like fuzz.

Point is, if you want/ need local capturing, you’ve still got it.

V1 was alright but still left a lot to be desired when you went into tones which were gainier & had a certain amount of high-end to them. V2 seems to perform pretty darn good.

 

[Deadpan]

V2 captures are more accurate.

When doing V1 and V2 back to back of the same settings I still like the V1.

V2 has more depth to the tone though.

 

[DG80]

Yeah, I’ve really noticed all the v2 captures I made today seem to be a lot more accurate - both in sound but especially feel.