NDSP Quad Cortex

[Jynx]

I just really hope NDSP doesn't release these plugins with partial content, e.g. amps but no effects.

Unlikely.

 

[Jynx]

Y'know I just realised I never looked at that above picture closely 'til now. It's actually a very neat and tidy way to do it instead of trying to put the amps, effects, and cabs, in with the others of the QC and having them greyed out or not depending on whether you have them or something like that.
I wonder if the plugins only appear in the list if you have them or will it show all of them regardless of whether you have them or not, only inactive if you don't possess it?

 

[mbenigni]

Unlikely.

This is looking good.

Next observation/ hope/ concern: I hope that menu structure isn't going to be the only way to get at plugin content. Meaning, I hope e.g. "Plini Crunch" can be found under the amp model menu, "Plini Overdrive" under the OD/DIST menu, and so on. Having amp models and amp captures in disparate menus is already a minor annoyance; new folders for every plugin would compound matters significantly.

 

[mbenigni]

Y'know I just realised I never looked at that above picture closely 'til now. It's actually a very neat and tidy way to do it instead of trying to put the amps, effects, and cabs, in with the others of the QC and having them greyed out or not depending on whether you have them or something like that.
I wonder if the plugins only appear in the list if you have them or will it show all of them regardless of whether you have them or not, only inactive if you don't possess it?

LOL I think we posted diametrically opposed viewpoints simultaneously.

I'm guessing e.g. the Plini submenu would only appear if you owned it. Otherwise, eventually, major clutter.

But personally, I'd rather see all the amps where amps go, all the distortions where distortions go, all the reverbs where reverbs go, etc. (Call me crazy...)

 

[Lysander]

I just really hope NDSP doesn't release these plugins with partial content, e.g. amps but no effects.

 

[Jynx]

LOL I think we posted diametrically opposed viewpoints simultaneously.

I'm guessing e.g. the Plini submenu would only appear if you owned it. Otherwise, eventually, major clutter.

But personally, I'd rather see all the amps where amps go, all the distortions where distortions go, all the reverbs where reverbs go, etc. (Call me crazy...)

I guess we'll find out. S O O N

 

[Jynx]

This is looking good.

Next observation/ hope/ concern: I hope that menu structure isn't going to be the only way to get at plugin content. Meaning, I hope e.g. "Plini Crunch" can be found under the amp model menu, "Plini Overdrive" under the OD/DIST menu, and so on. Having amp models and amp captures in disparate menus is already a minor annoyance; new folders for every plugin would compound matters significantly.

Both would be good thinking about it. On the one hand I can see why they would do this because it makes making presets that are based off a single plugin much easier, but I can see how only having this option makes mix and matching more of a pain.

One thing I can't see in that pic is where will presets from your plugin exist? Your own and artists'. I wonder if when you click on to the directory will you see the presets classed along the lines of Factory, User, Setlist 1-X (or whatever names you've given them), and then the plugins in order.

 

[mbenigni]

Nice option….not sure if the added latency would allow wahwahcontrol…is assume no…

This is an important question. The CME stuff is really low-latency (compared with most generic Bluetooth devices.) It still comes down to personal sensitivity, though.

The Paint Audio MIDI controllers are bundled with a wireless MIDI receiver that's even lower latency than the CME tx/rx. I have the MIDI Captain: 10 switches with 2 expression pedal inputs. They're coming out with some smaller controllers (one and two-switch variations) you could consider integrating into your rig. (Scratch that - it doesn't look like the MIDI Captain UNO or DUO have expression pedal inputs. Shame, the DUO looks really cool otherwise. )

As for a smaller board for the QC and one or two additional pedals, Gator makes some stuff that fits perfectly. Here's my board with an expression pedal, wireless audio and MIDI, and battery power underneath:

 

[Los-D]

Yep. Much as I'd prefer a QC Native* plugin over their current a la carte model (and now this tail-wagging-dog paradigm of buying plugin content for one's hardware modeler), I don't see how they could get there without a) charging a fortune for it, or b) completely undermining revenue from their current line of Archetypes, etc. etc.

*Aside: I don't think "ripping off" this name even bears mentioning, really. "Native" is as much part of the common vernacular as "plugin". If anything, everyone is ripping off Native Instruments, and even that's a stretch.

I guess we’ll know soon (no pun intended) enough if they start releasing a Cortex LT, QC Stomp XL, and even a Quad Express.

 

[mbenigni]

I guess we’ll know soon (no pun intended) enough if they start releasing a Cortex LT, QC Stomp XL, and even a Quad Express.

Naming concerns aside, I can't imagine they have the bandwidth. They barely got the QC out the door. (That sounds a bit negative so I'll add: I'm glad they did.)

 

[GTR37]

Naming concerns aside, I can't imagine they have the bandwidth. They barely got the QC out the door. (That sounds a bit negative so I'll add: I'm glad they did.)

Is there a summer NAMM
My prediction is they have the PCOM up and running and they introduce the Dual Cortex in that time frame leading up to the show

 

[Whizzinby]

This is what I've been on (and on, and on, and on) about from the beginning. NDSP's approach was never going to result in "QC Plugin Compatibility" per se, but merely "QC-Compatible Plugin Compatibility". Which will always be a work in progress.

(I just had that weird thing where "compatibility" doesn't sound like a word anymore.)

“The QC is now fully compatible with select Neural Plugins that are compatible with the QC. Neural Plug-ins that are not compatible with the QC, (which is is now fully compatible with select compatible Neural Plugins) will be made compatible soon. Future Neural Plugins may not be QC compatible at release, but will be brought to full compatibility at a future date with the QC, which is now fully compatible with select compatible Neural plugins”

 

[Los-D]

“The QC is now fully compatible with select Neural Plugins that are compatible with the QC. Neural Plug-ins that are not compatible with the QC, (which is is now fully compatible with select compatible Neural Plugins) will be made compatible soon. Future Neural Plugins may not be QC compatible at release, but will be brought to full compatibility at a future date with the QC, which is now fully compatible with select compatible Neural plugins”

 

[Mongillo19]

“The QC is now fully compatible with select Neural Plugins that are compatible with the QC. Neural Plug-ins that are not compatible with the QC, (which is is now fully compatible with select compatible Neural Plugins) will be made compatible soon. Future Neural Plugins may not be QC compatible at release, but will be brought to full compatibility at a future date with the QC, which is now fully compatible with select compatible Neural plugins”

Is that a real quote or

 

[Whizzinby]

Is that a real quote or

They asked me to make a draft for the revised manual post 3.0.

99% legit.

 

[GTR37]

They asked me to make a draft for the revised manual post 3.0.

99% legit.

I still don’t know why they don’t fix it going fwd with new plug
It’s like they continue to buy size 40 pants and then have to take them to a tailor because their waist is a 34

 

[Mongillo19]

I still don’t know why they don’t fix it going fwd with new plug
It’s like they continue to buy size 40 pants and then have to take them to a tailor because their waist is a 34

It feels like it's been awhile since NDSP released a plugin? And by "awhile" I mean with their previous release schedule but I have not looked up anything to confirm that lol

 

[GTR37]

It feels like it's been awhile since NDSP released a plugin? And by "awhile" I mean with their previous release schedule but I have not looked up anything to confirm that lol

If they were using common sense they would be making X plug-ins going fwd , but we will see
We know there is a VAI one
A rumoured Devin T
And likely a Freidman suite based on his love for them

 

[Mongillo19]

If they were using common sense they would be making X plug-ins going fwd

Yeah it would but idk, I have to imagine they realize not doing so would duplicate efforts.

I think it may be an effects thing. I wonder how the potentially more resource intensive effects in plugins will transfer over to the QC. Not saying the QC won't have the power but maybe the coding is more time consuming or difficult?

At the end of the day I think you hit the nail on the head. It's quicker for them to release the plugin "early" generate sales and then work on making it QC compatible.

 

[mbenigni]

“The QC is now fully compatible with select Neural Plugins that are compatible with the QC. Neural Plug-ins that are not compatible with the QC, (which is is now fully compatible with select compatible Neural Plugins) will be made compatible soon. Future Neural Plugins may not be QC compatible at release, but will be brought to full compatibility at a future date with the QC, which is now fully compatible with select compatible Neural plugins”