NDSP Quad Cortex

[Boudoir Guitar]

Are we at the point of taking this to PMs yet?

 

[ian_dissonance]

Your description doesn't ring true for me.

Which part? All of those things actually happened.

 

[Mongillo19]

I've seen this movie before

 

[Orvillain]

Which part? All of those things actually happened.

What features did they change during preorder? And what is still outstanding?

I keep asking that. No one will answer.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Do they have cake?

 

[ian_dissonance]

What features did they change during preorder?

Literally plugin compatibility, lol.

 

[texhex]

Every time someone mentions PCOM all I hear in my head is these two laughing…

PCOM, huh huh huh, huh huh, PCOM, huh huh huh

 

[Orvillain]

Literally plugin compatibility, lol.

How did they change it?

 

[Los-D]

“Dad!!! Put your phone down and get to snow shoveling!!!”

“Do as I say, not as I do, son!!!!!!!”

 

[ian_dissonance]

How did they change it?

It didn’t exist. You can talk in your own circle if you want to be pedantic about it.

 

[GearAng3l]

About PCOM... arent most amps that are in the plugins already modelled in the QC? Or are they vastly different (if they are the same model)?

 

[Orvillain]

It didn’t exist. You can talk in your own circle if you want to be pedantic about it.

You're making no sense. They either changed a feature or they didn't.

I'm not being pedantic. I'm fact checking you. You are wrong. They said it would support plugins. It took ages to materialise. That's it. There's no need for lies.

 

[ian_dissonance]

About PCOM... arent most amps that are in the plugins already modelled in the QC? Or are they vastly different (if they are the same model)?

They’re pretty close if not all in there now, or they released official captures.

 

[LP59]

You're making no sense. They either changed a feature or they didn't.

I'm not being pedantic. I'm fact checking you. You are wrong. They said it would support plugins. It took ages to materialise. That's it. There's no need for lies.

A couple of years ago, when the PCOM issue was getting salty, I tried to find the basis for the contention that it was promised prior to the launch. I couldn't find anything. Maybe I was looking in the wrong places, but the closest thing I could find was an interview at that first NAMM where they showed the QC with someone who might or might not have been a NDSP employee. That person made a vague reference to how the QC would, at some point, run the NDSP plugins that you own.

PCOM eventually became a topic in development updates from NDSP, but not until after the initial launch.

 

[ian_dissonance]

A couple of years ago, when the PCOM issue was getting salty, I tried to find the basis for the contention that it was promised prior to the launch. I couldn't find anything. Maybe I was looking in the wrong places, but the closest thing I could find was an interview at that first NAMM where they showed the QC with someone who might or might not have been a NDSP employee. That person made a vague reference to how the QC would, at some point, run the NDSP plugins that you own.

PCOM eventually became a topic in development updates from NDSP, but not until after the initial launch.

It was listed as feature in the ad copy on Sweetwater for months that it would compatible with plugins, might have even still been there after release. Not “might run plugins someday but it’s hard so be patient”. At some point the ad copy changed. That line started a little before actual release.

 

[Lysander]

I'm not being pedantic. I'm fact checking you. You are wrong. They said it would support plugins. It took ages to materialise. That's it. There's no need for lies.

No, pedantic would be noting this was a feature promised during the preorder campaign. We have Doug Castro, on record, stating that plugin compatibility was trivial to implement and the main issue was converting patches (!!!). And, somewhere along the line, that turned into "no, this is actually a lot of work, we need to rewrite all plugins in the process."

Truth is, they marketed and sold the QC on a feature they didn't even have a proof of concept for at the time.

And yeah, sure, it's gotten... better since. 5 years in and some stuff works, some don't, yet NDSP keeps releasing new plugins without PCOM - which is incredible.

 

[LP59]

It was listed as feature in the ad copy on Sweetwater for months that it would compatible with plugins, might have even still been there after release. Not “might run plugins someday but it’s hard so be patient”. At some point the as copy changed. That line started a little before actual release.

Yes, you're right, and that was the source of a lot of angst. They also showed an editor IIRC.

But, I was referring to communication from NDSP, not Sweetwater, prior to launch saying PCOM would be included. I wasn't able to find anything.

 

[yeky83]

That section was already a cesspool way before NDSP came to the scene.
Heck just the IR thread in that forum from @jay mitchell brought up the most crazies of crazies. Just ask @yeky83 .

Haven’t been following the thread but got tagged... what's this about?

Anyway, confirming yes.

 

[ian_dissonance]

Yes, you're right, and that was the source of a lot of angst. They also showed an editor IIRC.

But, I was referring to communication from NDSP, not Sweetwater, prior to launch saying PCOM would be included. I wasn't able to find anything.

Where do you think Sweetwater gets the ad copy from?
Edit: there were pages of talk about it at TOP that got nuked/deleted when the “well this is gonna be harder than we thought” thing started where people were asking for clarification between what was listed and what was coming and (I might misremember) the copy on the NDSP page changed way before the retailers did. I’m just amazed people are believing “oh they never said that”.

 

[Lysander]

Haven’t been following the thread but got tagged... what's this about?