NDSP Quad Cortex

[eon]

I used to think there was no way they'd cut off one of their highest margin income streams, but it's been quite a while since they released one.

Frankly, I have no idea what the true health or viability of that company is these days.

Turnover up, profits down.

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[namathan_zirwir]

I don't think that's right. I have seen other sites showing their financials way different than that. And that site looks super sketchy..
They dont lose money, despite what you guys think LOL. The QC is still one of the best selling modelers out there - for one thing.,

 

[mikah912]

I don't think that's right. I have seen other sites showing their financials way different than that. And that site looks super sketchy..
They dont lose money, despite what you guys think LOL. The QC is still one of the best selling modelers out there - for one thing.,

I'm not pocket-watching them either way.

What I am noticing, is a slowdown of customer facing products, aftermarket support, and overall public visibility.

I really don't know why that's happening, and any speculation would be baseless. I just know the end result is not great for current or prospective customers.

 

[namathan_zirwir]

Steven Wilson has been using a QC..interesting

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[namathan_zirwir]

I'm not pocket-watching them either way.

What I am noticing, is a slowdown of customer facing products, aftermarket support, and overall public visibility.

I really don't know why that's happening, and any speculation would be baseless. I just know the end result is not great for current or prospective customers.

yeah fair enough man. I see what you are saying. I was just responding to what seems to be some fake financials above..

 

[AlbertA]

. The QC is still one of the best selling modelers out there - for one thing.,

You have data showing that?

 

[mikah912]

You have data showing that?

At least in the US, it's still near the top of Sweetwater's most popular multi effects. Only Helix Stadium (both models) is beating it currently.

 

[Mongillo19]

At least in the US, it's still near the top of Sweetwater's most popular multi effects. Only Helix Stadium (both models) is beating it currently.

Yeah I have no doubt it's a top selling modeling unit

 

[namathan_zirwir]

At least in the US, it's still near the top of Sweetwater's most popular multi effects. Only Helix Stadium (both models) is beating it currently.

At Thomann as well it’s still at the top

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I don't think that's right. I have seen other sites showing their financials way different than that. And that site looks super sketchy..
They dont lose money, despite what you guys think LOL. The QC is still one of the best selling modelers out there - for one thing.,

Yeah that’s ridiculous. For example PRS revenue is 16M half of that.

 

[eon]

I don't think that's right. I have seen other sites showing their financials way different than that.

Do you have a link or two?

And that site looks super sketchy..

How so? This site distributes official company information from the tax registers, and as such we show legal information and accounting data for all active Finnish companies, where available from official sources.

 

[fiftyshadesofslay]

Turnover up, profits down.

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Slim pickings for all at NDSP if they only managed to turnover 35,000 euros last year

 

[laxu]

I don't think that's right. I have seen other sites showing their financials way different than that. And that site looks super sketchy..
They dont lose money, despite what you guys think LOL. The QC is still one of the best selling modelers out there - for one thing.,

Looks about the same as other sites that report this sort of stuff.

https://www.finder.fi/IT-konsultoin...Technologies+Oy/Helsinki/yhteystiedot/3221340

https://www.asiakastieto.fi/yritykset/fi/neural-dsp-technologies-oy/28475331/taloustiedot

https://www.kauppalehti.fi/yritykset/yritys/28475331

Didn't NDSP buy some company in Denmark or something? That kind of thing can explain negative numbers.

Some of these sites might also report wrong numbers. I checked the company I work for and it showed a very low revenue which is not right at all, even though the past years were correct. Might be some issue with where they're getting the data.

 

[eon]

Slim pickings for all at NDSP if they only managed to turnover 35,000 euros last year

35 million euros.

All amounts are in thousands of euros.

 

[eon]

Yeah that’s ridiculous. For example PRS revenue is 16M half of that.

Don't know where you got that number from.

In 2012 it was $43.5M

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and $60M in 2018.

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[Lysander]

On their website I recall reading in an FAQ that all upcoming / new plugins would not come out X 'ified and they would join the queue of re-coding. Yep. Im not kidding.

Pretty incredible how they don't have a proper process in place for these so long after launch....

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Don't know where you got that number from.

In 2012 it was $43.5M

PRS Guitars -- Chasing Perfection (And Profits)

Paul Reed Smith knows he can't outsell Gibson and Fender. So he's trying to turn the humble guitar into a Stradivarius.

www.forbes.com

and $60M in 2018.

'Why PRS Is Gaining Share in the Guitar Market' - trade journal article

Interesting look at PRS' recent business and growth from an industry journal, Music Trades, October 2018 issue. PRS has never been too public about the business side of its business, to my knowledge, till now...

www.thegearpage.net

Either way the numbers don't make sense
PRS claims they're making 12000/month import gtrs and 2000/month in Maryland
That's almost 150k/year.
And if you average that at what 1000/4000 respectively then their revenue should be in the neighborhood of 144M for import and 96M for MD built. Total 244M before pick-ups, amps etc.

 

[Orvillain]

They dont lose money, despite what you guys think LOL

Well given I used to work at a company that from the outside looked very successful, but actually were 50 million dollars in the red and failed to secure their series C funding, I'm going to err on the side of skepticism when it comes to claims of them being a profitable company - (and no I don't mean inMusic)

 

[DrewJD82]

Didn't NDSP buy some company in Denmark or something? That kind of thing can explain negative numbers.

They hired the TC Electronic staff that Behringturd let go and set them up in an office in Denmark, IIRR.

 

[Chocol8]

And if you average that at what 1000/4000 respectively

Those numbers are pretty far from the actual wholesale prices.