NAM: Neural Amp Modeler

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Marshall JCM800 Zakk Wyle Signature Edition (0.5.2) NAM Profile · TONE3000

Check out arlingtonaudio's neural amp head capture for guitar, bass and recording: Arlington Audio - Neural Amp Modeler pack ------------------------------------------ Created with trainer version 0.5.2. Normalization is supported. Marshall JCM800 Zakk Wylde Signature Edition The quintessential...
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Sounds legit but I don't know what input dBu these captures were created for, might be over/under gained on my side.


Edit:
This type of captures format with Gain 0-10 in 0.5 steps is great.
I would like to see the same but with BMTP on 5 and Master on 2, before the poweramp breaks up.
 
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James Freeman said:
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Marshall JCM800 Zakk Wyle Signature Edition (0.5.2) NAM Profile · TONE3000

Check out arlingtonaudio's neural amp head capture for guitar, bass and recording: Arlington Audio - Neural Amp Modeler pack ------------------------------------------ Created with trainer version 0.5.2. Normalization is supported. Marshall JCM800 Zakk Wylde Signature Edition The quintessential...
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Sounds legit but I don't know what input dBu these captures were created for, might be over/under gained on my side.


Edit:
This type of captures format with Gain 0-10 in 0.5 steps is great.
I would like to see the same but with BMTP on 5 and Master on 2, before the poweramp breaks up.
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Nathan (Arlington) does some great stuff and I really like his format too. IIRC he said something the other day at being in that 10-13 dBu range or basically zero interface preamp gain for his captures
 
northern_fox said:
IIRC he said something the other day at being in that 10-13 dBu range or basically zero interface preamp gain for his captures
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I really wish people include that info on ToneHunt.

Here's another JCM800 with High/Low inputs and 0.5 gain steps created with the help of Nathan.
No info about knob position or input dBu.
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Marshall JCM800 2203 - old version | ToneHunt

Marshall JCM800 2203 - old version is a model by Jesco. Update on this model, May 20, 2023: https://tonehunt.org/Jesco/3cc3ba22-3ec1-4890-880a-b479f342567b These captures are from my early 1984 JCM800 2203 I dialled the amp in on the high and low input and did a set of captures increasing the...
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Made a couple of NAM models from my SLO modded Jet City 100 HDM.

Recommended with a 12dBu input.

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MirrorProfiles JCA 100HDM SLO Mods | ToneHunt

MirrorProfiles JCA 100HDM SLO Mods is a model by MirrorProfiles. For the most accurate response, adjust your input headroom for 12dBu (0dVFS=3 v RMS). Settings: Crunch gain: 10 OD gain: 3 Bass: 6 Mids: 4 Treble: 5 Crunch MV: 3 OD MV: 4 Presence: 5.5 Depth: 2.5
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James Freeman said:
It sounds quite dark and loose.
Are all SLO100 like that?
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Mine actually has the HR 100 coupling cap values in the phase inverter still so an SLO let’s more low end through than this.

At similar settings it’s a good bit brighter than some plugin versions, like I find Neural’s plugin quite dark by comparison.



 
James Freeman said:
I get a very different sound with this Jet City 100HDM capture.


And here is the JMP 2203:
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here's what the JCA OD NAM model is sounding like with the IR I dialled it in for (just a 57 on a Mesa V30 cab). Actually looks like I had the resonance control turned up in Libra 🤦🏻‍♂️)

NAM JCA

From Ed S
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Arlington Audio has released a Peavey 6506 pack with whopping 190 captures.

Can someone contact him and ask what exact dBu the captures were made for, he already put a lot of time and effort into this to miss such crucial piece of information.

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Peavey - 6505 (0.5.2) NAM Profile · TONE3000

Check out arlingtonaudio's neural amp head capture for guitar, bass and recording: Arlington Audio - Neural Amp Modeler pack ------------------------------------------ Peavey 6505 (2004 build, USA made) Since 1992, these guys have almost single handedly paved the way for modern heavy tones...
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These were made for 18.87 dBu, adjust accordingly.
 
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For anyone making their own captures, including the dBu level is really handy for ensuring other users have the same experience you do with them.

Here’s how to work out what your reamp level is, with and without using a multimeter:

 
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From the rare Marshall JMP 2150. These were made in limited numbers in the late 70's.

Its a sort of cross between a 100W Superlead and a 2203, but with its own quirks. PPIMV from factory, plate driven EQ, 10k cold clipper like a 2203.

Gets pretty fat and gainy, still undeniably classic Marshall sounding. Captured with channels jumped.

Most accurate response if you set your input headroom for 12dBu.
 
Hi all !

Thought I'd post this here rather than "the other place" where any NAM comments / criticisms are considered the work of the devil ;) :)

As a professed Tonex Fan, I've been messing [again] with NAM - and 0.7.2 and now 0.7.3 - playing back some Capture's, not doing any of my own.

Still cant hear or feel the " %3.3 Null test improvement at a -39.5db noise floor " ..... :)

Two things still jump out at me ..... I'm not at all a fan of the Gain / Tone EQ/Stack in NAM .. I don't know why but its just nowhere near as musical and "natural" as the Tonex ... to me.

Secondly .... all the good [and sh%t) NAM capture's I've tried - over 100 now - *seem to my ears* to have an excess of ultra-high end *almost* fizz / sizzle / crackle .... almost like pretty bad aliasing .... which require some very healthy High Cuts, but then the core tone is affected ... I thought I was just hearing this, but then I just now saw Leo Gibsons Latest video and he *seems* to have confirmed the very high Aliasing in NAM - see video here.

Leo Gibson Aliasing Video

PS: Sorry I cant figure out how to embed a video :(

So my questions are two fold:-

=> why doesn't Tonex exhibit this same ultra high end "rubbish" / "stuff" behaviour ?
=> is there an issue / extra complexity / problem in applying oversampling in an AI environment ?

I've no idea of the answers to either, but I'm sure the much smarter minds here will :)

Thanks,
Ben
 
James Freeman said:
Arlington Audio has released a Peavey 6506 pack with whopping 190 captures.

Can someone contact him and ask what exact dBu the captures were made for, he already put a lot of time and effort into this to miss such crucial piece of information.

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Peavey - 6505 (0.5.2) NAM Profile · TONE3000

Check out arlingtonaudio's neural amp head capture for guitar, bass and recording: Arlington Audio - Neural Amp Modeler pack ------------------------------------------ Peavey 6505 (2004 build, USA made) Since 1992, these guys have almost single handedly paved the way for modern heavy tones...
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These were made for 18.87 dBu, adjust accordingly.
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Just to confirm: if my interface is calibrated for +12dBu and the capture is done at +18.9dBu(Arlington Audio), do I have to set INPUT in the plugin to -6.9dBfs?
 
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