NAD: Marshall DSL100HR

mbenigni said:
… I've gone from being indifferent to Marshalls to outright greedy for Marshalls in the span of about two weeks LOL.
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May I suggest a:
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😁
 
AFKAEjay(retired) said:
Do you have something digital that does captures? Edit, you have a QC.
If so..capture the preamp of one via the send…and a/b against real, both into the return of the H.
Maybe it helps FOMO ;)
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Bottom line, I think I slightly prefer the sound of the H, but I much prefer the features of the HR. So comparing their tones is almost a moot point. :/
 
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mbenigni said:
Bottom line, I think I slightly prefer the sound of the H, but I much prefer the features of the HR. So after a point, comparing their tones is almost moot. :/
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I’ll probably get booted from the forum for saying this… but just get rid of one and you won’t even notice the tone differences anymore.

I always find I’m perfectly happy with the sound of a piece of gear until I start doing side by side comparisons. Then my brain starts noticing differences and tries to decide which slight differences it prefers, and it’s a slippery slope from there.
 
metropolis_4 said:
I’ll probably get booted from the forum for saying this… but just get rid of one and you won’t even notice the tone differences anymore.

I always find I’m perfectly happy with the sound of a piece of gear until I start doing side by side comparisons. Then my brain starts noticing differences and tries to decide which slight differences it prefers, and it’s a slippery slope from there.
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I couldn’t agree more. And every time I find myself convinced that the HR is lacking or the H is more legit or whatever, it turns out I’ve done something stupid with the Masters, or the EQs aren’t quite like for like, or… (This also speaks to the fact that making a couple of captures to A/B is actually non-trivial.)

So I agree getting rid of one makes sense. The only problem is that the less practical amp for my purposes (H) is going to be more difficult to unload, whereas the HR is just a matter of telling MF I want my money back. (Also, that small matter of finding an HR that ain’t broke.)
 
mbenigni said:
Bottom line, I think I slightly prefer the sound of the H, but I much prefer the features of the HR. So comparing their tones is almost a moot point. :/
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What If you could do the observation that digital preamps into return sound and feel the same, and you run all your preamp sections from the QC…wouldn’t you have all the switching options you could ever want in the QC?

I run a 2 channel amp I love to death, I run it in 4cm, analog preamp in scene 1, scene 2 to 4 are captures of it.
I don’t even bother to take the footswitch of the amp.
So scene 1 is my analog preamp, sometimes it’s the clean channel, sometimes the drive…in any case…I got the other one available as a digital version.

The nice thing about it is that you have all the control you want, and at the same time your “analog itch” scratched. Also nice..it’s really an “apples to apples” comparison, and it’s so hybrid..you never have to consider if you go analog or digital ;)
 
mbenigni said:
I couldn’t agree more. And every time I find myself convinced that the HR is lacking or the H is more legit or whatever, it turns out I’ve done something stupid with the Masters, or the EQs aren’t quite like for like, or… (This also speaks to the fact that making a couple of captures to A/B is actually non-trivial.)

So I agree getting rid of one makes sense. The only problem is that the less practical amp for my purposes (H) is going to be more difficult to unload, whereas the HR is just a matter of telling MF I want my money back. (Also, that small matter of finding an HR that ain’t broke.)
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I suppose another option could be keep both, but put one in storage as a backup? Never a bad thing to have a backup.

Or get an sde-3000 and run both in stereo :D
 
metropolis_4 said:
always find I’m perfectly happy with the sound of a piece of gear until I start doing side by side comparisons. Then my brain starts noticing differences and tries to decide which slight differences it prefers, and it’s a slippery slope from th
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So recognizeable..

Life was perfect until you compared and one won the match. Before it you had 2 great pieces of gear, after it you have one loser ;)
 
mbenigni said:
I couldn’t agree more. And every time I find myself convinced that the HR is lacking or the H is more legit or whatever, it turns out I’ve done something stupid with the Masters, or the EQs aren’t quite like for like, or… (This also speaks to the fact that making a couple of captures to A/B is actually non-trivial.)

So I agree getting rid of one makes sense. The only problem is that the less practical amp for my purposes (H) is going to be more difficult to unload, whereas the HR is just a matter of telling MF I want my money back. (Also, that small matter of finding an HR that ain’t broke.)
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Soooo, where are you located? 😁
 
AFKAEjay(retired) said:
What If you could do the observation that digital preamps into return sound and feel the same, and you run all your preamp sections from the QC…wouldn’t you have all the switching options you could ever want in the QC?

I run a 2 channel amp I love to death, I run it in 4cm, analog preamp in scene 1, scene 2 to 4 are captures of it.
I don’t even bother to take the footswitch of the amp.
So scene 1 is my analog preamp, sometimes it’s the clean channel, sometimes the drive…in any case…I got the other one available as a digital version.

The nice thing about it is that you have all the control you want, and at the same time your “analog itch” scratched. Also nice..it’s really an “apples to apples” comparison, and it’s so hybrid..you never have to consider if you go analog or digital ;)
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Once the dust settles, that’s probably how I’ll run things 9x out of 10. But it’s still valuable to know which amp sounds better in straight up caveman mode. So far, it seems to be damn near a tie, as you’d expect.

The thing that remains is the HR is still a little more attractive for a hybrid or 4CM setup because it’s got those MV pots. I’ve found that when something goes wrong (and given enough time something will go wrong) with a DSP pointed directly into an unchecked power amp… it’s not a good time. :O
 
metropolis_4 said:
I suppose another option could be keep both, but put one in storage as a backup? Never a bad thing to have a backup.

Or get an sde-3000 and run both in stereo :D
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100%. Although we should acknowledge that we’re talking about a backup for a piece of gear I didn’t exactly “need” in the first place. :D

(Regardless, this is a likely outcome LOL.)
 
JiveTurkey said:
Do you actually need the features the HR provides that the H doesn't?
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Excellent question - same one my wife kept asking, in fact. Unfortunately, I’d say yes; MV, MIDI control, and switching on the FX loop rather than the mediocre reverb are all attractive features that I’ll get some mileage out of.
 
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