Modeling Fidelity likely isn’t as critical as we think.

[jay mitchell]

There's a lot of objectively bad tones

Another oxymoron. Tone quality is subjective.

 

[Orvillain]

If you don't have a good ear, you'll never become a great player. There are weak players with good ears, but the opposite isn't possible. By "good ear," I'm referring to having good intonation, the ability to hear intervals, to play ensemble, etc. What you folks are referring to is correctly termed "good taste," which of course is subjective. I'm also not talking about going deaf sometime after you've already become a great player. It happens. Just ask Beethoven.

Mozart had one ear blown off in the battle of Jamie Bulger. You know nothing.

(@MirrorProfiles and @SillyOctpuss will get this one!)

 

[timbuck3]

If you don't have a good ear, you'll never become a great player. There are weak players with good ears, but the opposite isn't possible. By "good ear," I'm referring to having good intonation, the ability to hear intervals, to play ensemble, etc. What you folks are referring to is correctly termed "good taste," which of course is subjective. I'm also not talking about going deaf sometime after you've already become a great player. It happens. Just ask Beethoven.

I know what you mean. My gf kid plays piano and now guitar and he is intelligent so he can copy pretty good but his creativity isn’t there and technical chops is one thing but playing mechanically with no “ soul” is another. I find no flow in his playing as he just plays hooks in songs and jumps to diff songs on either instrument. I wonder if this is an age thing being brought up in cell phone era?

 

[Orvillain]

I know what you mean. My gf kid plays piano and now guitar and he is intelligent so he can copy pretty good but his creativity isn’t there and technical chops is one thing but playing mechanically with no “ soul” is another. I find no flow in his playing as he just plays hooks in songs and jumps to diff songs on either instrument. I wonder if this is an age thing being brought up in cell phone era?

Everyone on this forum has you blocked. You're like a dildo with eternal batteries. Go away.

 

[ChordInversion]

I know what you mean. My gf kid plays piano and now guitar and he is intelligent so he can copy pretty good but his creativity isn’t there and technical chops is one thing but playing mechanically with no “ soul” is another. I find no flow in his playing as he just plays hooks in songs and jumps to diff songs on either instrument. I wonder if this is an age thing being brought up in cell phone era?

Based on many young musicians I know, I'd say the answer is no. I know more young people who can sight read, improvise with great fluidity, and play across genres now than I did when I was getting up on stages in my early 20s (which was 30 years ago). It's not even close. This is also the era of parents expecting their children's entirely lives must consist of structured activities, and for some kids, that meant a ton of music lessons and recitals. Also, a lot of them learned singing during the a capella fad (that has largely faded of late).

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

You're like a dildo with eternal batteries.

No aliasing I guess

 

[jay mitchell]

Everyone on this forum has you blocked.

To continue your "logic:"

"That place is so crowded nobody goes there anymore."

"I would never join a club that would have me as a member."

"All generalities are false, including this one."

Is the light coming on yet?

 

[Deleted member 1726]

Common sense trumps "logic", every single time:

"Never negotiate with terrorists, psychopaths or two-year-olds."

 

[JiveTurkey]

Honestly, you should consider yourself lucky, it could have been MUCH worse. Here's mine:

You've come a long way

 

[Frodebro]

Clever idea. So maybe we all should just stop playing guitar and concentrate on the important aspects of life.

Hookers and blow?

 

[Baba]

You've come a long way

Yeah, but you know what was easier about that? I didn’t have money, nor the internet, so I had no choice but to play and make the most out of what I had.

I never thought about how bad it sounded

 

[Baba]

Everyone on this forum has you blocked. You're like a dildo with eternal batteries. Go away.

Not me. I want to see what he buys.

 

[Mikael Dez]

@timbuck3 just keeping on timbuckin’ brother

 

[timbuck3]

Everyone on this forum has you blocked. You're like a dildo with eternal batteries. Go away.

@timbuck3 just keeping on timbuckin’ brother

Copy that haters gonna hate…

 

[ian_dissonance]

Fidelity as accuracy to a tube amp means dick to me. My guitar has three extra low strings and active pickups, it’s not even the same instrument as a Strat or a Les Paul. Boss X amps sound like nothing real but they do a killer job with what I’m putting through them. That’s all that matters to me. I struggled all the time with “realistic” amp modeling in the Helix and plugins because I stupidly want to play a dumb extended range instrument and nobody (so far) is building or modeling amps made to make A0 sound like a guitar. I really like tools that are looking for new ways to get there versus absolutely nailing the old ways .

 

[timbuck3]

Based on many young musicians I know, I'd say the answer is no. I know more young people who can sight read, improvise with great fluidity, and play across genres now than I did when I was getting up on stages in my early 20s (which was 30 years ago). It's not even close. This is also the era of parents expecting their children's entirely lives must consist of structured activities, and for some kids, that meant a ton of music lessons and recitals. Also, a lot of them learned singing during the a capella fad (that has largely faded of late).

Yes this is also true so more jack of all trades master of none in many ways. I remember in music theory classes at conservatory of music a lot of people went against the flow of logic to create some of interesting compositions.. and some were by the book . It’s all good. Like jazz where everyone is kinda doing their own thing together yet the chaos sound good.

 

[ChordInversion]

Yes this is also true so more jack of all trades master of none in many ways. I remember in music theory classes at conservatory of music a lot of people went against the flow of logic to create some of interesting compositions.. and some were by the book . It’s all good. Like jazz where everyone is kinda doing their own thing together yet the chaos sound good.

No, I see more master of one people. They just have foundations that are extensive, like most well trained musicians of the past.

 

[timbuck3]

No, I see more master of one people. They just have foundations that are extensive, like most well trained musicians of the past.

That too sometimes I guess… I mean both make sence

 

[PLX]

Yes this is also true so more jack of all trades master of none in many ways. I remember in music theory classes at conservatory of music a lot of people went against the flow of logic to create some of interesting compositions.. and some were by the book . It’s all good. Like jazz where everyone is kinda doing their own thing together yet the chaos sound good.

That's why they call it "music theory".. not "music fact".

 

[[Nathan]]

Fidelity as accuracy to a tube amp means dick to me. My guitar has three extra low strings and active pickups, it’s not even the same instrument as a Strat or a Les Paul. Boss X amps sound like nothing real but they do a killer job with what I’m putting through them. That’s all that matters to me. I struggled all the time with “realistic” amp modeling in the Helix and plugins because I stupidly want to play a dumb extended range instrument and nobody (so far) is building or modeling amps made to make A0 sound like a guitar. I really like tools that are looking for new ways to get there versus absolutely nailing the old ways .

I was flicking through some old axefx2 videos around the rise of Misha with that original djent kind of tone. Hearing it in its full glory after all these years of amp chasing I immediately realised its a sound you pretty much cant get from a tube amp. Its so immediate and sharp, digital in a way that just works for Drop G-ish kind of tunes.

Regardless of that if an amp sim company is selling their latest Dual Recto amp sim then I'd like it to sound as Dual Recto as possible. Companies like Wavemind are going for that more hyped drop tuning kind of stuff and that's great as well, they're just different paths.