Minor keys - do they really exist?

[spawnofthesith]

Modes aren't keys, so why does the aeolian mode get special treatment?

 

[TSJMajesty]

That's a good question!
When you get the answer, let me know.

 

[duzie]

I believe Ionian wants to know as well

 

[spawnofthesith]

I believe Ionian wants to know as well

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

The areolian gives me goosebumps.

 

[Achilles]

Aeolian is directly related to C-major. The minor scale is not.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Aeolian is directly related to C-major. The minor scale is not.

??

Aeolian is the modal name for the natural minor scale, it isn’t specific to any one major key. A aeolian is the 6th degree of the C major scale

B aeolian applies to the D major scale, etc etc

 

[Achilles]

B aeolian

We're confusing modes and scales. The original modes were created/named/identified in relation to the C major scale.
The millions of musicians since that time have mashed up terminologies for convenience sake.

wrong: B aeolian applies to D major

right: B minor is relative to D major

BUT, again, what I labeled wrong would be perfectly understandable and considered correct to most musos.




P.S. I could easily be 100% off base since I'm posting via memory cells I haven't used since 8th grade music theory class back in 1974......

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

I'll just .....Do this ....and slink away.....

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

I believe Ionian wants to know as well

Ahhh ..you c....

 

[Achilles]

I'll just .....Do this ....and slink away.....

Old brain cells check out.

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

Miner....keys ...budum bum Tish.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I think it depends on how sad you are.

 

[FuzzyAce]

I prefer the Aioli mode, with garlic.

 

[la szum]

Huh? Modes definitely have tonalities, and you can construct majour or minour
chords out of them---as with any scale.

They are far from neutral, though. Myxolydian, for instance, has a majour tonality due to the
Majour 3rd interval. That is unlike Aeolian, which has a Minour tonality, due to the flatted 3rd.

 

[FuzzyAce]

Modes are a good way to set an emotional mood. At least that's how I hear them.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Huh? Modes definitely have tonalities, and you can construct majour or minour
chords out of them---as with any scale.

They are far from neutral, though. Myxolydian, for instance, has a majour tonality due to the
Majour 3rd interval. That is unlike Aeolian, which has a Minour tonality, due to the flatted 3rd.

Right, but I’ve never heard someone say “this song is in the key of of F# locrian”

I’m trying to deduce why the aeolian mode gets special status as getting to be described as a “key” when none when none of the other modes do (aside from Ionian obviously)

 

[Achilles]

Major or Minor
Happy or Sad
Ionian or Aeolian

Maybe it's simply a case of those two being most popular?

 

[spawnofthesith]

Actually what I said is not totally true my bass player often likes to describe a songs key based on what he perceives as the modality of the chord progression, but we don’t always see eye to eye on what he’s identifying as such

 

[spawnofthesith]

Major or Minor
Happy or Sad
Ionian or Aeolian

Maybe it's a simply case of those two being most popular?

This is what I suspect is probably the root of it