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I like Kyle.
It's hammering the same dozen riffs and licks on 1,000 different high gain amps
in the exact same style and vein that kind of gets a bit stale.
But I feel that way about "most" of the YT throng. So it's me. Not you.
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It's hammering the same dozen riffs and licks on 1,000 different high gain amps
in the exact same style and vein that kind of gets a bit stale.
But I feel that way about "most" of the YT throng. So it's me. Not you.
Chocol8
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My Son already told me to sell all of my shit before I die.
Fuck that! What is he going to do about it if you don't? Curse out your gravestone?
EOengineer
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When it comes to chasing Hetfield tones, the differences between the lead circuit from the IIC forward are basically moot. They can all do very authentic versions of that tone.
maddnotez
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Well the first thing I thought when I watched Thorn's video (without knowing what Crunchberrries was) I thought, nice...sounds like metallica.
Maybe not exactly but to my ears this is the Metallica amp and if that's what people want then great. It's just not something that gives me GAS and for the price there's no way. I'd get a few other amps over this in a minute.
I think I would love the Mk IV personally but haven't ever played one.
In my mind, knowing I will never have a 2c+ or ++ or any berries at all....I just hope this kills the used market for the OG amps where people are charging obscene amounts so the people who really want them can afford them.
maddnotez
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Tone is all in the youtube compression.It's hammering the same dozen riffs and licks on 1,000 different high gain amps
in the exact same style and vein that kind of gets a bit stale.
But I feel that way about "most" of the YT throng. So it's me. Not you.
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Yup. Even Papa Het has moved on.
That said, I can imagine being super stoked to have an amp
that one of your Heroes has played and made (in)famous.
I totally get how cool that is.
maddnotez
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With that said I don't understand the hate on Kyle. Never met the dude but I've seen him post on various forums and have watched a bunch of his vids.
Yeah, I would have dialed in the amp differently. In fact I think it would be extremely rare if I see ANY youtube guy or any other player that would dial in my amps the same way I do. People like what they like.
The guy loves guitar, loves hardcore. Has dozens of incredible amps, doesn't seem like a shill and started a venue to put on shows in his local area. Doesn't get much cooler than that in my book.
Yeah, I would have dialed in the amp differently. In fact I think it would be extremely rare if I see ANY youtube guy or any other player that would dial in my amps the same way I do. People like what they like.
The guy loves guitar, loves hardcore. Has dozens of incredible amps, doesn't seem like a shill and started a venue to put on shows in his local area. Doesn't get much cooler than that in my book.
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I would definitely not turn down a IIC+ or really any Mark series amp.Yup. Even Papa Het has moved on.
That said, I can imagine being super stoked to have an amp
that one of your Heroes has played and made (in)famous.
I totally get how cool that is.
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The IIC++ was released back at NAMM:
It was very "preorder" and having to contact your dealer to get on a VIP list to get it kind of deal.
But I guess this is the same amp then, just the official release of it!
Thank you! Very strange to have an official release of it when it's sold out. But I guess maybe it builds hype and raise the second hand value to unobtainium on these as well..
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Well for some reason they withheld the release for AT LEAST 6 weeks... no idea why.
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If it makes you feel any better I have a bunch of boogies and I've been recording almost exclusively on my FM9 recently. The recorded tone is closer than you may think, but a real tube amp in a room is still an unmatched experience.Its because of this that I'm glad I own a Fractal
Yup I can't afford all these super expensive amps but they are damn close in my Fractal
And I have the choice of almost any amp flavor
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I guess I’m just a live and let live hippie freak. I think it’s rad as hell that Gibson is offering these reissues
I have absolutely 0 interest in them I have 3 marks and a clone in my collection. But good for Mesa/Gibson and I’m stoked for the folks that own and are enjoying these. Shade throwers be damned
I have absolutely 0 interest in them I have 3 marks and a clone in my collection. But good for Mesa/Gibson and I’m stoked for the folks that own and are enjoying these. Shade throwers be damned
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I’m in a similar boat. I love the idea of seeing < 3k IIC+ heads floating around. Not sure I’ll get one, and TBH the jury is still out for me on my perception of the success of their implementation, but it’s all good.I guess I’m just a live and let live hippie freak. I think it’s rad as hell that Gibson is offering these reissues
I have absolutely 0 interest in them I have 3 marks and a clone in my collection. But good for Mesa/Gibson and I’m stoked for the folks that own and are enjoying these. Shade throwers be damned
The manufactured scarcity of the IIC++ is kind of yuck, but whatever. It’s not my company.
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It’s really strange seeing the standard marketing hype cycle with these amps, YouTube videos popping up in groups and everything, when they only made 200 and they’re no doubt all sold out already.
Not to mention the blatant Gibson money grab when the IIC++ mod could have been included with the new IIC+ and put on a Mid push/pull pot like the OG mod was.
The whole thing seems weird.
Not to mention the blatant Gibson money grab when the IIC++ mod could have been included with the new IIC+ and put on a Mid push/pull pot like the OG mod was.
The whole thing seems weird.
LCW
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To be fair the original “factory” IIC++ were even scarcer. Sure Mike B did many mods after the fact. I’m sure he’s refused some along the way. But it was never mass produced or readily available.
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Considering the false rumors that the standard RI was going to be so limited it kind of makes sense that the “++” is the actual limited one
Also , I feel like it was common knowledge months ago that the ++ was coming and was going to be super limited So I’m not following all the shock and Pearl clutching currently going around
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Yup. Whole lotta money for 200 amps that would easily sell anyway.
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@JiveTurkey also keeps bringing up an excellent and pertinent point that evwrything that Mesa releases that isn’t a mark or recto variant gets overlooked, unfairly compared to the flagships , and eventually discontinued. Mesa tried to pull a fast one by calling the badlander a recto and as awesome as it was still got panned pretty hard for not sounding like a recto. This has been going on for decades. People can bag in Gibson all they want but realistically they’re just being smart and giving customers what they’ve been demanding for years
I do hope we still get some new “non flagship” releases and that in another 10 years following the schedule we get a new innovative mark. But like……. *gestures*
I do hope we still get some new “non flagship” releases and that in another 10 years following the schedule we get a new innovative mark. But like……. *gestures*
