MERIS ENZO X

[Orvillain]

I just noticed that the switches on those pedals (same for the LVX) are incredibly close to each other. No idea how one could properly operate the inner switches live...

They're mostly fine. But I do prefer the spacing of the Boss 500 series.

 

[Desertdweller]

This thing is so interesting. It actually works as a full-fledged synth module as well.

 

[BROCKSTAR]

This thing is so interesting. It actually works as a full-fledged synth module as well.

The BOSS GM-800 does as well. You can do more with it because you can layer 4 synths and a drum program on top of each other

 

[Desertdweller]

The BOSS GM-800 does as well. You can do more with it because you can layer 4 synths and a drum program on top of each other

To me the Boss just sounds dated. I'd love to hear some videos/samples where it sounds modern. The Enzo sounds very modern to my ears.

 

[TJontheRoad]

To me the Boss just sounds dated. I'd love to hear some videos/samples where it sounds modern. The Enzo sounds very modern to my ears.

The GM-800 has Roland's Zencore sound engine. The same as in their Fantom keyboards. You can get almost any type sound out of that. Much more powerful than the sound engine inside Enzo. The presets do sound dated because they are same as what has been in Roland's Zencore/Zenology library forever. But you can program new sounds for the GM-800 on your computer and import them. Enzo does have the advantage of sound design right on the box itself.

 

[Sascha Franck]

They're mostly fine. But I do prefer the spacing of the Boss 500 series.

Compared them to the GT-1000 (which is possibly sort of a minimum requirement regarding switch distance) on Pedalplayground and they're really a *lot* closer to each other. Defenitely nothing for me just because of that (and I'm actually sort of in the market for whatever kinda "let's do some strange things" device).

 

[Orvillain]

Compared them to the GT-1000 (which is possibly sort of a minimum requirement regarding switch distance) on Pedalplayground and they're really a *lot* closer to each other. Defenitely nothing for me just because of that (and I'm actually sort of in the market for whatever kinda "let's do some strange things" device).

Get a Fleshlight.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Get a Fleshlight.

Yet another one?

 

[JiveTurkey]

The GM-800 has Roland's Zencore sound engine. The same as in their Fantom keyboards. You can get almost any type sound out of that. Much more powerful than the sound engine inside Enzo. The presets do sound dated because they are same as what has been in Roland's Zencore/Zenology library forever. But you can program new sounds for the GM-800 on your computer and import them. Enzo does have the advantage of sound design right on the box itself.

Main issue with the Boss in this kind of discussion is it is NEVER going to carry any sort "cool" cred in the crowd that wants that sort of thing for their boards. The Meris definitely will.

 

[TJontheRoad]

Main issue with the Boss in this kind of discussion is it is NEVER going to carry any sort "cool" cred in the crowd that wants that sort of thing for their boards. The Meris definitely will.

Main issue with Boss is they don't think folks are smart enough to do sound design themselves (they might right about that) and they make it f'ing hard to do so. At least Meris lets you try without making you going through a Ninja Warrior obstacle course. Now that's cool.

 

[BROCKSTAR]

Main issue with Boss is they don't think folks are smart enough to do sound design themselves (they might right about that) and they make it f'ing hard to do so. At least Meris lets you try without making you going through a Ninja Warrior obstacle course. Now that's cool.

Nah not true, come on. There is a lot of ways to control things in boss sy-300, and sy-1000 and heck even gr-55 and vg-99 etc..

GM-800 is fantastic, even if you do have to go in editor to do more deep stuff, but it's the most deep synth there is for guitar right now.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Nah not true, come on. There is a lot of ways to control things in boss sy-300, and sy-1000

Sure, but they're all super-convoluted. Admittedly, I don't have experience with them, but I looked at their editors and they're pretty much along the same lines as the GT series (and I own and use a GT-1000 daily). Their UIs might've been ok 20 years ago, but coming up with that kinda stuff today is almost a disgrace towards human intelligence. Sure, they're still sort of servicable, but I can't think of anything in my arsenal providing less joy than editing the GT, regardless whether it's on unit (most horrible) or via the editors (the mobile OS editors being an almost otherworldly offense).
And fwiw, yes, I absolute like my GT and it'll stay on my board as the "controlling heart" (not using its amp sounds) for a while to come. But that's only because I have done endless hours of homework and pretty much don't need to edit anything anymore.
With a synth-ish unit things are pretty different. If done properly, synths should invite you to explore (and hence edit) them.

 

[TJontheRoad]

Nah not true, come on. There is a lot of ways to control things in boss sy-300, and sy-1000 and heck even gr-55 and vg-99 etc..

GM-800 is fantastic, even if you do have to go in editor to do more deep stuff, but it's the most deep synth there is for guitar right now.

I was speaking about the GM-800. The SY series is much more hands on I agree. I also agree the the GM-800 is the most deep synth there is for guitar right now. But, until the come out with a dedicated editor usable directly via UBS and that you don't have to pay a monthly sub for, it'll always be hamstrung.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I also agree the the GM-800 is the most deep synth there is for guitar right now.

But it's MIDI-only, which is a fundamental difference when it comes to accepting your playing technique.

 

[BROCKSTAR]

But it's MIDI-only, which is a fundamental difference when it comes to accepting your playing technique.

IT'S NOT MIDI it's hex system.

 

[JiveTurkey]

IT'S NOT MIDI it's hex system.

Elantric is twitching somewhere as you type this

 

[TJontheRoad]

But it's MIDI-only, which is a fundamental difference when it comes to accepting your playing technique.

Yes, it has MIDI. And, it has a hexophonic pickup system called the GK-5. Don’t call that MIDI.

 

[Whizzinby]

This pedal looks badass. I’d love to see LT give this a spin.

 

[Sascha Franck]

IT'S NOT MIDI it's hex system.

Sure. Still pretty much the same.

Yes, it has MIDI. And, it has a hexophonic pickup system called the GK-5. Don’t call that MIDI.

It's pretty much the same as in the unit not using audio signals as a source but only converting them to trigger signals.

 

[ejecta]

Is this all atmospheric beep boop or can it track fast lines like the SY1000?

I’m curious about the same. Atmospheric and beep boop can be fun until it isn’t.