MARSHALL AMPS

[laxu]

Thomann prices are out for the modded amps.

Amp	Including Finnish VAT 25.5%	Without VAT ~
Marshall 1959HW	1922 €	1432 €
Marshall 1959 Modified	3222 €	2400 €
Marshall JCM800 2203 Reissue	1699 €	1266 €
Marshall JCM800 2203 Modified	2899 €	2160 €

This is completely stupid pricing. Marshall is seriously trying to justify that a few hundred euros worth of parts and labor amounts to ~1000 € higher price tag? GTFO.

My recommendation is that nobody buys these amps. If you must have a Marshall badge on yours, buy the 1959HW or JCM800 and get it modded by a local tech. Or better yet, buy one of the great modded Marshalls made by a bunch of companies.

 

[6CA7-A]

Instead of marsha marsha marsha ..... now it boogera boogera boogera.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Yeah. Way too expensive.

1959HW is arguably a bit too cheap when you compare to other 100W turret board plexis with “proper” parts (not ceriatone branded caps+transformers). Even still, the difference in price doesn’t make any sense, not least because you’re BARELY getting a different amp.

If they gave them new chassis, faceplates, required extra valves, and had extra channels, fx loops, MIDI etc they could maybe justify Friedman/Bogner type prices. There’s really no incentive to not buy a cheaper one and use the rest of the money to choose whoever you like to mod it. You’d have enough money left over to go with basically any of the big name modders, or you could have someone local fine tune it to your taste.

 

[6CA7-A]

Dont forget the NO POLITICS.

 

[Elf]

4K for the 1959 and 3.6K JCM800 USD including taxes to Arizona, free shipping. Quoted from Guitar Center app.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Good fucking lord.

 

[LeftyLoungeLizard]

Where's that "I told y'all" meme?

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

I’m holding out for the factory modded Mode 4

 

[GTR37]

Thomann prices are out for the modded amps.

Amp	Including Finnish VAT 25.5%	Without VAT ~
Marshall 1959HW	1922 €	1432 €
Marshall 1959 Modified	3222 €	2400 €
Marshall JCM800 2203 Reissue	1699 €	1266 €
Marshall JCM800 2203 Modified	2899 €	2160 €

This is completely stupid pricing. Marshall is seriously trying to justify that a few hundred euros worth of parts and labor amounts to ~1000 € higher price tag? GTFO.

My recommendation is that nobody buys these amps. If you must have a Marshall badge on yours, buy the 1959HW or JCM800 and get it modded by a local tech. Or better yet, buy one of the great modded Marshalls made by a bunch of companies.

Buy the Jose from Dave
Or a Gower

 

[KingsXJJ]

I have 2 Marshall amps yet on my bucket list. Well, one is Marshall based. First is Friedman’s Plex and the second is the JCM-900 20 watt head.

So about 5k for both with taxes. If things get crazy on pricing due to buyouts or NO POLITICS then I’ll just make do with modelers or the used market. I feel like I need to quote Danny Glover from Lethal Weapon at this point…

 

[la szum]

Flash News: Unmodded Marshalls sound F'ing amazing, too.

 

[la szum]

Of course, a new Marshall in the States (modded or unmodded) will cost you literally ZERO
$$$ right now. Because you can't get any of the damn things.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I've fucked around not buying Marshalls for so long (other than that one time at band camp with a Mode Four) that I'll probably never own one of any significance. And I think I'm ok with that at this point, sadly enough?

Edit for i did like the DSL I had.

 

[LCW]

Of course, a new Marshall in the States (modded or unmodded) will cost you literally ZERO
$$$ right now. Because you can't get any of the damn things.

Still?

 

[Frodebro]

Yes. But if they were acquired by Gibson would we say that they were acquired by the USA?

Nope, two very different situations. In communist counties, the state controls EVERYTHING.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Nope, two very different situations. In communist counties, the state controls EVERYTHING.

@DrewJD82 Request permission to give snarky answer.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Nope, two very different situations. In communist counties, the state controls EVERYTHING.

This statement pains me @Frodebro . Being honest, when we talk about NO POLITICS, taxes, VAT or import duties, it is clear the state controls many
things whether communist or not. Then, as previously seen with Marshall in America, there is another middle man in the US. A capitalist tax. I’m afraid there is no free ride with either system and it kinda hurts me to think you believe it boils down like you indicate it does. The game is rigged against us. Unless strangely enough, you buy as closely as possible to the producer. China. Why do you think that is?

This isn’t a political statement. Just reality as in rubber hits the road as in what do your $$ actually buy? And who gets paid when you spend them?

 

[KingsXJJ]

@DrewJD82 Request permission to give snarky answer.

I gave it.

 

[Frodebro]

@DrewJD82 Request permission to give snarky answer.

I'm not sure why you feel the need for snark, what I said is a basic fact that has been proven repeatedly over the last 100 years. I'm not looking to start any kind of goofy debate here, nor am I trying to trigger anybody.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

@Frodebro Let me just say one thing, in the most neutral way possible: an excess of control is just as bad as the absence or destruction of any control mechanisms. And finding the right balance between the two isn't always the easiest or most popular thing.

That being said, I don't think the high prices of these "factory modded" Marshalls are justified in any way. But it's always the same with companies that only rely on their legacy instead of innovating and trying new things. Just look at Gibson - every year they re-release the same old 50s and 60s Les Pauls, in varying levels of quality and at ever-increasing prices. The same thing is currently happening with Mesa since they were bought by Gibson. Innovation has been stopped, instead there are overpriced reissues. The cow is milked for as long as possible, knowing that at some point it will be over. The last Marshall amp that was supposed to be modern and offer something new was the JVM. That was 18 years ago...