MARSHALL AMPS

[TheTrueZoltan!]

@Frodebro Let me just say one thing, in the most neutral way possible: an excess of control is just as bad as the absence or destruction of any control mechanisms. And finding the right balance between the two isn't always the easiest or most popular thing.

That being said, I don't think the high prices of these "factory modded" Marshalls are justified in any way. But it's always the same with companies that only rely on their legacy instead of innovating and trying new things. Just look at Gibson - every year they re-release the same old 50s and 60s Les Pauls, in varying levels of quality and at ever-increasing prices. The same thing is currently happening with Mesa since they were bought by Gibson. Innovation has been stopped, instead there are overpriced reissues. The cow is milked for as long as possible, knowing that at some point it will be over. The last Marshall amp that was supposed to be modern and offer something new was the JVM. That was 18 years ago...

 

[Frodebro]

@Frodebro Let me just say one thing, in the most neutral way possible: an excess of control is just as bad as the absence or destruction of any control mechanisms. And finding the right balance between the two isn't always the easiest or most popular thing to do.

That being said, I don't think the high prices of these "factory modded" Marshalls are justified in any way. But it's always the same with companies that only rely on their legacy instead of innovating and trying new things. Just look at Gibson - every year they re-release the same old 50s and 60s Les Pauls, in varying levels of quality and at ever-increasing prices. The same thing is currently happening with Mesa since they were bought by Gibson. Innovation has been stopped, instead there are overpriced reissues. The cow is milked for as long as possible, knowing that at some point it will be over. The last Marshall amp that was supposed to be modern and offer something new was the JVM. That was 18 years ago...

I agree completely with you, there is no issue there. As I posted earlier, watching the videos of the new modded Marshall made me realize that my Mesa Stiletto already has "that sound," so I'm not remotely interested in one myself.

 

[KingsXJJ]

@TheTrueZoltan! And @Frodebro

 

[HotRats]

Thomann prices are out for the modded amps.

Amp	Including Finnish VAT 25.5%	Without VAT ~
Marshall 1959HW	1922 €	1432 €
Marshall 1959 Modified	3222 €	2400 €
Marshall JCM800 2203 Reissue	1699 €	1266 €
Marshall JCM800 2203 Modified	2899 €	2160 €

This is completely stupid pricing. Marshall is seriously trying to justify that a few hundred euros worth of parts and labor amounts to ~1000 € higher price tag? GTFO.

My recommendation is that nobody buys these amps. If you must have a Marshall badge on yours, buy the 1959HW or JCM800 and get it modded by a local tech. Or better yet, buy one of the great modded Marshalls made by a bunch of companies.

Prices are crazy, I agree, but getting the all same mods done locally isn't cheap either and usually money spent for mods won't be recovered if you reseller the amp.

Marshall is clearly trying to milk the cow buy I appreciate they've done something "new" at least.

 

[la szum]

I just want to know when Marshalls will be in stock again in the States.

 

[la szum]

@Frodebro Let me just say one thing, in the most neutral way possible: an excess of control is just as bad as the absence or destruction of any control mechanisms. And finding the right balance between the two isn't always the easiest or most popular thing.

That being said, I don't think the high prices of these "factory modded" Marshalls are justified in any way. But it's always the same with companies that only rely on their legacy instead of innovating and trying new things. Just look at Gibson - every year they re-release the same old 50s and 60s Les Pauls, in varying levels of quality and at ever-increasing prices. The same thing is currently happening with Mesa since they were bought by Gibson. Innovation has been stopped, instead there are overpriced reissues. The cow is milked for as long as possible, knowing that at some point it will be over. The last Marshall amp that was supposed to be modern and offer something new was the JVM. That was 18 years ago...

I was totally expecting more snark!




Props to you all for handling things so well, and respectfully.

 

[HotRats]

I just want to know when Marshalls will be in stock again in the States.

Never. With a 25% tariff on top, exporting them is usless. We'll keep them all for us here in Europe.

 

[Whizzinby]

I just want to know when Marshalls will be in stock again in the States.

100%. What the Marshall Modded 800TM convinced me of is the need to just buy a stock 800 for 2k and hit it with a TS, (As Jobu intended) then put the “saved” $1,100 towards a Friedman Jose.

 

[KingsXJJ]

You do crack me up man. @Whizzinby

 

[KingsXJJ]

I was totally expecting more snark!




Props to you all for handling things so well, and respectfully.

Totally. Inspires me to be a better contributor.

 

[la szum]

100%. What the modded 800 convinced me of is the need to buy a stock 800 for 2k and hit it with a TS, (As Jobu intended) then put the “saved” $1,100 towards a Friedman Jose.

Haha! Kind of the same here----except I am on the Plexi hunt. Still need a JVM, too.

Anyone need a Kidney?

 

[la szum]

Never. With a 25% tariff on top, exporting them is usless. We'll keep them all for us here in Europe.

Haha! Luckily, the Marshalls in question are not Made in Canada, or Mexico.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Haha! Kind of the same here----except I am on the Plexi hunt. Still need a JVM, too.

Anyone need a Kidney?

Got the JVM and JCM-800HS and @Whizzinby is spot on about OD1 Orange as well as the TS. I just need the Plex and JCM-900 to complete the collection. Then I can NAIL Hendrix, EVH and Navarro FTW. 15 year old me would be on the moon.

Oh, and a modernized JMP-1 and furthermore a Triaxis. Keep bringing on the reissues!

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

[…] Anyone need a Kidney?

 

[la szum]

 

[Frodebro]

C’mon, man! Have some respect for, you know, the thing!

 

[KingsXJJ]

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I see boobs. So I have that going for me… which is nice.

 

[KingsXJJ]

100%. What the Marshall Modded 800TM convinced me of is the need to just buy a stock 800 for 2k and hit it with a TS, (As Jobu intended) then put the “saved” $1,100 towards a Friedman Jose.

Jobu?

 

[TSJMajesty]

As Jobu intended

 

[KingsXJJ]

I feel so clueless right now! Which is totally cool.