Luminite Graviton M1 MIDI Controller

[laxu]

Graviton M1 Software Update 3.0.3 (Beta 4) is online


Done, plus increased sensitivity too ! Let me know if it works for you

Yeah seems to work better now, it's not 100% but definitely much more consistent. I wouldn't spend any extra effort on this, it works well enough.

Improvement: Add the "Send" button to the menu when editing a block CC/PC. Being able to change the value and immediately hit Send to test it out would be handy. Now you need to go out of that and hold, then hit Send.
Done !

Ah, I should have been better at wording it. I was thinking of having "Send" directly in the view where you have Type, Number and Value as well as the Slider. But it's definitely less clicks to do it where it's now.

I was thinking of this from the point of view that I change PC or CC value and want to test that the command works right, so I can quickly change a value, hit Send, change a value, hit Send and so on without using the XY controller to change things or configure e.g PC/CC scroll features.

Also, +/- buttons for PC values would be useful, so instead of tapping the number, you can easily inc/dec the value. This would be useful for trying different presets from the editor.

To have a double tap without activating the Preset first will add a slight delay to the first tap (it needs to wait 500ms and confirm there is no second tap coming). (This is for touch screen navigation only, not affecting XY Controllers or Fooswitches).
If there are cases that a double tap should not activate the Preset, I can add it no problem ?

Yeah my issue was mainly that the preset would activate when using hold to open the menu, or it would reactivate when I had it already active and just wanted to go to the editor via double tap. These situations can cause your MIDI controlled device settings to go back to preset value without intention.

It's definitely tricky to do 100% without adding extra delays.

 

[laxu]

Improvement: For MIDI note commands, show note name/octave. Not very useful for anything guitar stuff, but potentially for keyboard/synth things.

Also completely unrelated, what's the right way to use MIDI clock? I tried setting my Strymon Deco to accept MIDI clock, but couldn't get it working. I set 1st command of a preset to be "MIDI clock on" on the Strymon so it should accept MIDI clock input, but what should I use for Graviton clock features to start sending clock values or tap tempo?

 

[Luminite]

Ah, I should have been better at wording it. I was thinking of having "Send" directly in the view where you have Type, Number and Value as well as the Slider. But it's definitely less clicks to do it where it's now.

I was thinking of this from the point of view that I change PC or CC value and want to test that the command works right, so I can quickly change a value, hit Send, change a value, hit Send and so on without using the XY controller to change things or configure e.g PC/CC scroll features.

Also, +/- buttons for PC values would be useful, so instead of tapping the number, you can easily inc/dec the value. This would be useful for trying different presets from the editor.

Yeah I was trying to find a good place for the send button, either after the Value, or at the bottom of the screen. +/- buttons for PC is a good idea too.

Yeah my issue was mainly that the preset would activate when using hold to open the menu, or it would reactivate when I had it already active and just wanted to go to the editor via double tap. These situations can cause your MIDI controlled device settings to go back to preset value without intention.

It's definitely tricky to do 100% without adding extra delays.

This delay is very small, almost not noticeable, plus only happens with touch navigation, not playing. Most MIDI Controllers with footswitch Double Tap function (ie Morning Star) has this latency. I'll implement it.

Improvement: For MIDI note commands, show note name/octave. Not very useful for anything guitar stuff, but potentially for keyboard/synth things.

Sure I can add it too.

Also completely unrelated, what's the right way to use MIDI clock? I tried setting my Strymon Deco to accept MIDI clock, but couldn't get it working. I set 1st command of a preset to be "MIDI clock on" on the Strymon so it should accept MIDI clock input, but what should I use for Graviton clock features to start sending clock values or tap tempo?

Adding a MIDI Clock message will start the clock running straight away, but make sure you turn Clock on in Settings > MIDI.
(the actual Clock BPM being sent out is displayed on the bottom menu bar in MIDI Editor Screen, you can tap on it and override the BPM in the Message Blocks).

 

[pik00011]

Hi all!
After recieving my unit last week, I have finally sat down to start programming! The M1 is certainly a very capable unit with plenty of potential.
I am absolutley loving the discussion happening here, it's always wonderful to see manufacturers engaging with their customers.
After I've get everything up and running I'll post some thoughts
Cheers

 

[laxu]

Hi all!
After recieving my unit last week, I have finally sat down to start programming! The M1 is certainly a very capable unit with plenty of potential.
I am absolutley loving the discussion happening here, it's always wonderful to see manufacturers engaging with their customers.
After I've get everything up and running I'll post some thoughts
Cheers

Welcome to the club! If it doesn't come with the latest fw yet, install it and then run the touch calibration in Settings -> Display. After that, imagination is the limit!

 

[Luminite]

Graviton M1 3.0 Software Update is here​

AUGUST 19, 2023

Dive into a new vibrant and colorful user interface, enjoy enhanced speed, streamlined usability, expanded customization options, and support for new hardware.

Overview:

• Enhanced UI Customization: Tailor each screen with the new Layout selector menu and customizable preset colors.
• Faster Navigation: Introduce Double Tap and Long Tap support for touch screen objects.
• Improved XY Controllers Support: Match screen to controller layout and add individual mapping for each controller .
• Improved Footswitch Support: Match screen to pedal layout and add a sensitivity adjustment setting.
• Wireless Pairing: Extend compatibility to Luminite F10W and F6W wireless footswitch pedals.
• Swift Performance: quicker boot time.

MIDI Editor Screen:

• Added ► button for quickly sending either a Preset or an individual MIDI Message via touch.
• Enhanced touch slider sensitivity.
• Long Tap on a MIDI Message Block to Move / Delete / Disable / Send Block.
• Long Tap on a Tracking Block to Clear / Clear All.
• Streamlined MIDI Type selector menu.
• Improved Program Change name display.

New: Preset Library Screen (Replacing the Bank screen):

• Managing / programming Presets all in one place.
• One tap switching between Block and List Layout.
• Added Preset colors with 16 selectable colors.
• Double Tap for instant editing in MIDI Editor Screen.
• Long Tap for Rename / Copy / Swap / Delete / Change Color.

New: XY Controller Screen:

• XY / Block / List Layout selector menu.
• XY Layout matches with physical controller.
• Block / List Layout with direction arrows option.
• Individual mapping for each paired controller (up to 10).
• Double Tap for instant Preset editing in MIDI Editor Screen.
• Long Tap for Actions assignment menu.

New: Footswitch Pedals Screen:

• Block / List Layout selector menu.
• Block Layout matches with the footswitch layout.
• 10-switch and 6-switch layout for Luminite F10/W and F6/W pedals.
• Double Tap for instant Preset editing in MIDI Editor Screen.
• Long Tap for Assign Actions / Learn menu.
• Individual mapping for each pedal.

New: Expression Pedals Screen:

• Block / List Layout selector menu.
• Added Expression Preset colors with 16 selectable colors.
• One Tap to assign pedal to a preset.
• Double Tap for instant Preset editing in MIDI Editor Screen.
• Long Tap for Rename / Copy / Swap / Delete / Change Color menu.

New: MIDI In Screen:

• Block / List Layout selector menu.
• Double Tap for instant Preset editing in MIDI Editor Screen.
• Long Tap for Assign Actions / Trigger menu.

Live Screen:

• Added Preset background color on the Live Screen.

Setlist Library Screen:

• Merged from 3 individual screens into Setlist Library > Setlist > Song menu structure for easier navigation.
• Double Tap for Open / Add Song / Add Preset.
• Long Tap for Rename / Copy / Swap / Delete.

Settings:

• Reorganized Settings > TRS page.
• Added TRS Footswitch Pedals sensitivity setting.
• Added Pairing Screen for Wireless Footswitch Pedals.
• Improved Backup Import / Export process reliability.

User Interface Improvements:

• Improved keyboard and a new special characters set.
• Long Tap on backspace key to clear text.
• Added keyboard cursor, which flashes red when the maximum text length is reached.
• Reset to the default name when no text is entered.
• Added the total number of banks / page numbers.
• General bug fixes and performance improvements.

Upcoming Features:

• New Control Surfaces Screen.
• New Status Monitor Screen.
• Parameter Names Filtering.
• Sliders Scaling.

User Manual:
Luminite Graviton M1 User Manual 3.0

Release Note:
https://luminitefx.com/blogs/news/graviton-m1-3-0-software-update-is-here

 

[laxu]

What are the differences between 3.0.4 and 3.0.3?

I see there's a nice play button on the MIDI editor views now. That's a good way to do it without using much space!

 

[Luminite]

Hi all!
After recieving my unit last week, I have finally sat down to start programming! The M1 is certainly a very capable unit with plenty of potential.
I am absolutley loving the discussion happening here, it's always wonderful to see manufacturers engaging with their customers.
After I've get everything up and running I'll post some thoughts
Cheers

Welcome ! Just in time for the 3.0 Update. The User Manual is a good place to start. Looking forward for more thoughts and feedback

What are the differences between 3.0.4 and 3.0.3?

I see there's a nice play button on the MIDI editor views now. That's a good way to do it without using much space!

Change Logs from 3.0.3:

• Added Play button in MIDI Editor Screen for sending Preset
• Added Play button in MIDI Message Editor (under the slider) for sending MIDI Message
• Added 3.0 Manual in Settings > Manual.
• Reorganized Select MIDI Type menu.
• Add Long Tap > Edit Preset in XY Controllers, Footswitch Pedals and MIDI In Screen.
• Reorganized Assign Action menu.
• Bug fixes

This delay is very small, almost not noticeable, plus only happens with touch navigation, not playing. Most MIDI Controllers with footswitch Double Tap function (ie Morning Star) has this latency. I'll implement it.

I tried this but the lag doesnt feel good on touchscreen, and it interferences with touch Tap Tempo function. So I added Long Tap > Edit Preset on all Preset Block if you want to edit without activating first.

 

[Graydon]

I have been playing with my Graviton M1 a little this weekend. Works great. I've only played with a couple presets for my Collider on my small pedal board.

I built a 10-button footswitch which also works great except I made it too small. I can hardly pick just one footswitch. It needs to be 12" wide. This one is only 10" wide but I can't find a pre-made box that is 12" wide. I think I'll have to build one myself.

 

[Luminite]

I have been playing with my Graviton M1 a little this weekend. Works great. I've only played with a couple presets for my Collider on my small pedal board.

I built a 10-button footswitch which also works great except I made it too small. I can hardly pick just one footswitch. It needs to be 12" wide. This one is only 10" wide but I can't find a pre-made box that is 12" wide. I think I'll have to build one myself.

Welcome Graydon !
F10 and F6 Footswitch Pedals are available now btw

• Soft touch momentary footswitches.
• Staggered footswitch height: tall at the back, low at the front.
• Ultra low profile.
• Bomb proof stainless steel construction.
• Brushed metal finish with laser engraved logo.
• Dimension: 11 x 3.3 x 1.65 inches (280 x 85 x 42 mm).
• Footswitch spacing: 2.55 inches (65mm).

F10 Footswitch Pedal

10 soft touch momentary footswitches. Staggered footswitch height: tall at the back, low at the front. Ultra low profile. Bomb proof stainless steel construction. Brushed metal finish with laser engraved logo. Dimension: 11 x 3.3 x 1.65 inches (280 x 85 x 42 mm). Footswitch spacing: 2.55 inches...

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F6 Footswitch Pedal

6 soft touch momentary footswitches. Staggered footswitch height: tall at the back, low at the front. Ultra low profile. Bomb proof stainless steel construction. Brushed metal finish with laser engraved logo. Dimension: 5.9 x 3.3 x 1.65 inches (150 x 85 x 42 mm). Footswitch spacing: 2.55 inches...

luminitefx.com

 

[laxu]

Welcome Graydon !
F10 and F6 Footswitch Pedals are available now btw

• Soft touch momentary footswitches.
• Staggered footswitch height: tall at the back, low at the front.
• Ultra low profile.
• Bomb proof stainless steel construction.
• Brushed metal finish with laser engraved logo.
• Dimension: 11 x 3.3 x 1.65 inches (280 x 85 x 42 mm).
• Footswitch spacing: 2.55 inches (65mm).

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F10 Footswitch Pedal

10 soft touch momentary footswitches. Staggered footswitch height: tall at the back, low at the front. Ultra low profile. Bomb proof stainless steel construction. Brushed metal finish with laser engraved logo. Dimension: 11 x 3.3 x 1.65 inches (280 x 85 x 42 mm). Footswitch spacing: 2.55 inches...

luminitefx.com

F6 Footswitch Pedal

6 soft touch momentary footswitches. Staggered footswitch height: tall at the back, low at the front. Ultra low profile. Bomb proof stainless steel construction. Brushed metal finish with laser engraved logo. Dimension: 5.9 x 3.3 x 1.65 inches (150 x 85 x 42 mm). Footswitch spacing: 2.55 inches...

luminitefx.com

I guess these are wired only?

 

[Luminite]

I guess these are wired only?

Yep. The wireless version of these two (F10W and F6W) coming in two weeks. (Support dual mode: wired and wireless)

 

[laxu]

Yep. The wireless version of these two (F10W and F6W) coming in two weeks. (Support dual mode: wired and wireless)

Nice!

Any chance of the wireless footswitch supporting an expression pedal? E.g connect expression to footswitch on the floor -> wirelessly connected to M1 and able to use footswitches or expression?

 

[Luminite]

Nice!

Any chance of the wireless footswitch supporting an expression pedal? E.g connect expression to footswitch on the floor -> wirelessly connected to M1 and able to use footswitches or expression?

Thats an cool idea ! but would requires extra hardware. Im thinking of an adapter, with the size of a XY Controller, sticking to the side of the expression pedal would be an good option ?

 

[laxu]

Thats an cool idea ! but would requires extra hardware. Im thinking of an adapter, with the size of a XY Controller, sticking to the side of the expression pedal would be an good option ?

So basically it would make any standard expression pedal wireless MIDI compatible? That's a nice idea! And probably more flexible as you could use it with say a box with pots for a desktop expression thing.

I was thinking of simply "this footswitch box is on the floor, how about connecting an expression pedal to it so you don't need to run extra cables to the Graviton?"

 

[Enchilada Jones]

I tried to buy the F10 but it says it won't ship to my address. I had the Graviton shipped here with no problems. Has something changed?
I'm in South Carolina USA 29572

 

[Luminite]

I tried to buy the F10 but it says it won't ship to my address. I had the Graviton shipped here with no problems. Has something changed?
I'm in South Carolina USA 29572

Fixed ! It should be working now

 

[Enchilada Jones]

Fixed ! It should be working now

Thanks, ordered successfully. Can’t wait, I have so many things to try out!

 

[Graydon]

Welcome Graydon !
F10 and F6 Footswitch Pedals are available now btw

• Soft touch momentary footswitches.
• Staggered footswitch height: tall at the back, low at the front.
• Ultra low profile.
• Bomb proof stainless steel construction.
• Brushed metal finish with laser engraved logo.
• Dimension: 11 x 3.3 x 1.65 inches (280 x 85 x 42 mm).
• Footswitch spacing: 2.55 inches (65mm).

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F10 Footswitch Pedal

10 soft touch momentary footswitches. Staggered footswitch height: tall at the back, low at the front. Ultra low profile. Bomb proof stainless steel construction. Brushed metal finish with laser engraved logo. Dimension: 11 x 3.3 x 1.65 inches (280 x 85 x 42 mm). Footswitch spacing: 2.55 inches...

luminitefx.com

F6 Footswitch Pedal

6 soft touch momentary footswitches. Staggered footswitch height: tall at the back, low at the front. Ultra low profile. Bomb proof stainless steel construction. Brushed metal finish with laser engraved logo. Dimension: 5.9 x 3.3 x 1.65 inches (150 x 85 x 42 mm). Footswitch spacing: 2.55 inches...

luminitefx.com

Those boxes look great. I'll wait a couple weeks for the wireless F10W.

 

[yek]

Haven't found a use / justification for it yet (Axe-FX + RJM GT/22 rig), but it looks like a very cool product line, and very affordable too. Kudos.