Line 6 HX Bedroom™ (HX Stomp Successor) Speculation Thread

[Chocol8]

Nah. 9V; 600mA:

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I am pretty sure the ~ after the 9v is an indicator that it is 9 volts AC.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I am pretty sure the ~ after the 9v is an indicator that it is 9 volts AC.

For whatever reasons, some devices require AC. Some PODs do, the M13 does, the Whammy II does. These are the ones I own(ed).

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

I am pretty sure the ~ after the 9v is an indicator that it is 9 volts AC.

So weird - seems like if you’re going to go through the headache of significant voltage conversion outboard might as well have the rectification there too. Ahhh, the 90s…

 

[Chocol8]

For whatever reasons, some devices require AC. Some PODs do, the M13 does, the Whammy II does. These are the ones I own(ed).

Yes, when you said it isn’t DC, you were correct. The picture Boudoir posted looked like 9v AC and I looked it up and the wall wart is in fact a 9v AC power supply. That would be a very good reason to have a different connector!

 

[Sascha Franck]

That would be a very good reason to have a different connector!

The units mentioned all had. And the VAmp 2 even went beyond a barrel plug.

 

[Iron1]

If we were to follow our nomenclature rules and apply them to OG Helix's road map (which is quite different from the planned Stadium road map):

• Stadium Rack

Now how many people will ignore the parenthetical above and insist this is actually our road map? I'll make it clear: THIS IS NOT STADIUM'S PRODUCT ROAD MAP.

As long as a rack mount version IS part of the road map, I'll take that trip. Otherwise, Long Live my Helix Rack!

 

[GTR37]

As long as a rack mount version IS part of the road map, I'll take that trip. Otherwise, Long Live my Helix Rack!

The problem out of the 100 people voting just on this site the draw for the rack is 8%
That’s not a great ROI on and expensive piece

 

[Chocol8]

The problem out of the 100 people voting just on this site the draw for the rack is 8%
That’s not a great ROI on and expensive piece

The large majority of the R&D expenses needed for the rack will have been spent developing the other higher volume units. The question will be if the incremental cost to adapt the hardware and software to a rack format is worth the incremental sales. They should also consider if a rack might bring in more touring acts and other professional users that could help sell the other units.

Even if it is a small percentage of sales, it may be worth the development costs.

 

[Iron1]

The large majority of the R&D expenses needed for the rack will have been spent developing the other higher volume units. The question will be if the incremental cost to adapt the hardware and software to a rack format is worth the incremental sales. They should also consider if a rack might bring in more touring acts and other professional users that could help sell the other units.

Even if it is a small percentage of sales, it may be worth the development costs.

I know Im in the minority, but it seems like a rack is a no-brainer for studios, and those with home/bedroom studios.

 

[Chocol8]

I know Im in the minority, but it seems like a rack is a no-brainer for studios, and those with home/bedroom studios.

And guys with a tech who can operate their gear from off stage. The only reason I wouldn’t say it is a no brainer is because I don’t have a good handle on the numbers, cost to develop and stock it vs expected sales impact, but I expect you are correct and the rack and Stomp version will become reality. I would guess they will be the next two.

 

[Iron1]

And guys with a tech who can operate their gear from off stage. The only reason I wouldn’t say it is a no brainer is because I don’t have a good handle on the numbers, cost to develop and stock it vs expected sales impact, but I expect you are correct and the rack and Stomp version will become reality. I would guess they will be the next two.

Yes. Ive seen lots of pix of big, touring bands with Fractals in racks backstage. Can’t imagine L6 wants to leave that “market” to the competition.

Had a few folks mention the Native as a solid alternative to the Rack for studio use. But, when already expecting your computer to crunch through dozens and dozens of tracks in a DAW, adding Native to the processor’s workload seems like asking for frustration.

 

[molul]

I know Im in the minority, but it seems like a rack is a no-brainer for studios, and those with home/bedroom studios.

I'm not an expert, but if I had a modern studio, I'd use Native over Rack all day.

 

[ian_dissonance]

You see a lot do touring bands with pedals in a drawer in rack (QC especially until they move back to something reliable) so if the Stadium non-XL will fit they way it’s just as useful as a rack in those “big band with off-stage gear” scenarios.

 

[molul]

Apart from Line6, only Fractal has a rack unit. Neither Kemper, nor NDSP, not any other brand. That must mean something.

Although in that way non-saturated market, selling is easier. If you have an unit that's cheaper than Fractal's, selling it must be kinda easy.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Will the touchscreen fit on the face of a 3u rack?

 

[Chocol8]

Apart from Line6, only Fractal has a rack unit. Neither Kemper, nor NDSP, not any other brand. That must mean something.

Although in that way non-saturated market, selling is easier. If you have a unit that's cheaper than Fractal's, selling it must be kinda easy.

Kemper has a rack and a MK2 version of it. That means all three of the top dogs in the current gen have one.

 

[Chocol8]

Will the touchscreen fit on the face of a 3u rack?

Who cares if it works on a laptop or iPad?

 

[JiveTurkey]

Kemper has a rack and a MK2 version of it. That means all three of the top dogs in the current gen have one.

All current Kemper ugh aside; Power Rack is

 

[JiveTurkey]

Who cares if it works on a laptop or iPad?

The whole point of this iteration is the touch screen though. At least where we are at this current moment.

 

[Chocol8]

The whole point of this iteration is the touch screen though. At least where we are at this current moment.

Yeah but if all the touch screen functionality works on a tablet over WiFi or BT, I could see leaving the screen off a rack and maybe the Stomp. That could allow the rack to be 2u or even 1u as long as there is room for the IO ports. A 1u rack with a remote interface would be a pretty slick product. Line 6 could even offer a floorboard with foot switches and the touchscreen as an add on for those that want more than an iPad type of remote.