Line 6 Helix Stadium

[bucephalus]

That’s GT-1000 money. It’s still worth more than that.

They're £1099 here in general now. Can get the LT for £699.

 

[EOengineer]

You know what feature I think would be great? If we could mix and match preamps and power amps. I actually would like a Mesa Dual Rectifier preamp into a Marshall JTM power amp.

I’m desperately trying not to read too much into who liked this post. I’ve been hoping for it in the current gen but not expecting it at all. This feature would solve some problems for me, especially if I can run the poweramp with my own external preamp.

Yeah, I guess I understand that it’s still called a helix after all
I also wonder if down the line if you can just throw out all the old helix stuff once they create all the new agora amps and effects and just purge the old stuff and replace it

Sound quality can’t be the only deciding parameter here. Keep in mind that theirs is a plethora of original L6 M series (legacy in Hx) synth, filter, delay, and reverb effects that people have used in compositions for a couple decades now. I, for one, am VERY appreciative that L6 continues to carry these forward. It’s actually a very forward thinking move on their part.

I’m honestly not trying to be combative I’m just wondering like if the new engine is sounding better than the old helix how is that gonna work in the one unit want people prefer the agora amps if they sound better? I just remember when I had the GT 1000 that I was blown away by the camps And the other apps did nothing for me so in the end I got rid of it because there wasn’t enough variety of xamps , which was their new type. I just wish it had been released with all xamps.
I guess it’s just a lot of unanswered questions which as time comes down to it will be answered so of course this is a good direction and the evolve touchscreen is very nice

Keep in mind that those current gen models will end up benefiting from the higher dynamic range of the new hardware.

Its not rocket science ... just be thankful your modeler isn't designed and built by SpaceX

I’d prefer my modeler not blow up on the launch pad.

I guess I’m going to be the weirdo and the odd man out. I am going to have to wait until Proxy is ready to try Stadium.

I have fallen so far down the profile, capture, snapshot, what have you tech, that I am quite sure I won’t be satisfied with pure modeling.

Maybe, if we are all lucky Line6 will come up with a way to use Proxy, and the modeling amp controls for the corresponding amp realistically. I can dream anyway!

Nothing wrong with waiting until your feature is there. I’m excited about Proxy too. I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea but the prospect of being able to capture the amps I own in a highly controlled, consistent process and use them amongst the other fantastic options in Helix is a big win. Even more so if we see innovation in that space.

 

[Orvillain]

I'm not that arsed about mixing and matching pre+power amps to be honest. If it does it, cool. But I'll probably just stick to the full models.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like they've cracked the proper feedback and feedforward paths between blocks with the Stadium. If this is the case, it will bring massive improvements in tone and feel to the table.

I genuinely cannot wait to check this thing out. Quite excited!

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I'm not that arsed about mixing and matching pre+power amps to be honest. If it does it, cool. But I'll probably just stick to the full models.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like they've cracked the proper feedback and feedforward paths between blocks with the Stadium. If this is the case, it will bring massive improvements in tone and feel to the table.

I genuinely cannot wait to check this thing out. Quite excited!

I agree, it’s not something I ever care to do with real amps because the amp’s design has been made with those in place.

Having them seperate would be awesome for using external preamps, or running amps into other poweramps so I’m all for having them available on the unit.

 

[CrazyD]

Well, I guess they will eventually replace all or almost all the HX amps with Agoura versions, so the legacy folder will be necessary.

I would like to see more consistency in the folder structure for models. Currently, as I understood, some newer HX models would be in the legacy folder, while others older ones would be in the main folder. It would be better to have a dedicated folder, such as an "Agoura Module" folder or a general "HX Models" folder to not mix apples with oranges.

Or am I seeing to much through the eyes of an IT guy?

 

[HomespunEffects]

I'm not that arsed about mixing and matching pre+power amps to be honest. If it does it, cool. But I'll probably just stick to the full models. …

The feel in the stiff power amp is the only reason that I hate most high gain amps.

I agree, it’s not something I ever care to do with real amps because the amp’s design has been made with those in place.

Having them seperate would be awesome for using external preamps, or running amps into other poweramps so I’m all for having them available on the unit.

I do it with real amps and it is actually useful. It’s just not practical. On a Helix Stadium it would be both useful and practical.

 

[ChordInversion]

I imagine @Digital Igloo would tell me this is an unrealistic preference, but I would almost prefer that Proxy be something you could remove in order to free up storage for...anything else, really. That's how 100% modeling, 0% capturing I am.

 

[Orvillain]

I do it with real amps and it is actually useful. It’s just not practical. On a Helix Stadium it would be both useful and practical.

What's your workflow there out of interest? I've genuinely never really tried it, but I've got a whole stack of amps here! Might be cool to spend an afternoon fucking around with that.

 

[HomespunEffects]

What's your workflow there out of interest? I've genuinely never really tried it, but I've got a whole stack of amps here! Might be cool to spend an afternoon fucking around with that.

I just hate stiff power sections. I’m certain it’s the reason that I can’t like a Mesa. Buttttttt … plugging a Mesa effect send into a Marshall effect return and you’ve got something there.

It always comes back to a Marshall power amp.

This is the reason I sometimes use an Axiom PAE-1 in the loop of my amps. You can adjust some looseness in there and it is excellent.

 

[Lysander]

I imagine @Digital Igloo would tell me this is an unrealistic preference, but I would almost prefer that Proxy be something you could remove in order to free up storage for...anything else, really.

I don't think storage space will be an issue in the foreseeable future for the HXS The thing even has a microSD slot for cards up to 32GB.

 

[ChordInversion]

I don't think storage space will be an issue in the near future for the HXS The thing even has a microSD slot for cards up to32GB.

Valid. I just have this deep desire not to even have to bother with it at all. I don't want to accidentally run into it or even notice it in the UX unless I am seeking it out, and I don't want to trade off or compromise anything for it.

I understand that looks absurd, especially from the perspective of people who really dig captures, including a few dear friends of mine who have told me so. I don't claim that all of my opinions and preferences are perfectly well founded.

 

[Mikael Dez]

Valid. I just have this deep desire not to even have to bother with it at all. I don't want to accidentally run into it or even notice it in the UX unless I am seeking it out, and I don't want to trade off or compromise anything for it.

I understand that looks absurd, especially from the perspective of people who really dig captures, including a few dear friends of mine who have told me so. I don't claim that all of my opinions and preferences are perfectly well founded.

I feel the same way with any modeler for any effects I never use - I am not going to use flanger ever, EVER lol

 

[HomespunEffects]

I feel the same way with any modeler for any effects I never use - I am not going to use flanger ever, EVER lol

Get yo flange on, foo!

 

[Mikael Dez]

Get yo flange on, foo!

 

[Lysander]

I feel the same way with any modeler for any effects I never use - I am not going to use flanger ever, EVER lol

[sobs in Unchained]

 

[JiveTurkey]

I just hate stiff power sections. I’m certain it’s the reason that I can’t like a Mesa. Buttttttt … plugging a Mesa effect send into a Marshall effect return and you’ve got something there.

It always comes back to a Marshall power amp.

This is the reason I sometimes use an Axiom PAE-1 in the loop of my amps. You can adjust some looseness in there and it is excellent.

Mesa Modern mode is godlike

[sobs in Unchained]

That's probably what triggered the dislike in the first place

 

[Mooselake]

I’m desperately trying not to read too much into who liked this post. I’ve been hoping for it in the current gen but not expecting it at all. This feature would solve some problems for me, especially if I can run the poweramp with my own external preamp...

I think now that they've put in the plumbing for blocks to interact with each other (i.e., impedance characteristics/curves between amps and speakers) it seems plausible to mix preamps and power amps, though I imagine it might be a little tricky to find pairs that match well out of the box. Maybe it's more straightforward than I think though. It's been a consistent thing on wish lists and I'm sure they'll eventually implement it if possible assuming demand remains.

 

[James Freeman]

It would be a real shame if Line6 created the nice 3D isometric views of the models only for the Focus feature.
I expect the PC Editor to be EPIC both visually and functionally.

 

[molul]

I imagine @Digital Igloo would tell me this is an unrealistic preference, but I would almost prefer that Proxy be something you could remove in order to free up storage for...anything else, really. That's how 100% modeling, 0% capturing I am.

What part of Proxy would you need to remove in order to have more space? I mean, just don't download profiles and you should have all space available.

 

[GTR37]

What part of Proxy would you need to remove in order to have more space? I mean, just don't download profiles and you should have all space available.

I would wait and see how cool it is
I think it will be like NDSP always planned how Cortex cloud would work until they realized they were incompetent